# Cannot retire stake pool

**URL:** <https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537>\
**Category:** Operate a Stake Pool\
**Created:** [26 September 2021 03:24 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537 "2021-09-26T03:24:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 03:24 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/1 "2021-09-26T03:24:12Z")

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Hi there, some epochs ago I retired my pool using cntools. When I go pool → show it says it is still registered but when I go to pool → list its says it is not registered. I have not received my 500 ada back ☹ on my CLI wallet. Now when I try to retire again is says ‘WARN: No pools available that can be selected! Required files: cold.vkey, cold.skey’ even tho I never took out the keys from my server and the keys are in the pool priv folder. Has anyone had a similar situation? Pool name is ALMA. Would appreciate any input.

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**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 06:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/2 "2021-09-26T06:16:32Z")

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> [@alexmf95](#):
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> ALMA

The pool is not retired, upload all files on priv/pool/pool\_name folder including the pool.cert and try to retire again

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 17:19 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/3 "2021-09-26T17:19:30Z")

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Hi Alex, thanks for the reply. I believe I have all the files in my private folder. See below:

 ![Keys](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/d/a/dae57358156e79ec28e537d06dfcc1a95a2e8309.png)

But the same error keeps showing that I am missing cold.vkey and cold.skey when trying to retire. I was thinking maybe I need to reinstall cntools and recover the pool and wallet? But how would I go about this?

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**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 17:22 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/4 "2021-09-26T17:22:06Z")

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> [@Alexd1985](#):
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> pool.cert

You don’t have the pool.cert file

Should be node.cert in your case, and you will need to rename to pool.cert

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 17:36 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/5 "2021-09-26T17:36:19Z")

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I have not moved any of the files in this folder. Would it be the op.cert file that I need to rename? Or is there any other folder I would be able to find the pool.cert file? I wonder how it got lost and if something happened when I retired my pool some weeks ago.

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**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 17:45 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/6 "2021-09-26T17:45:14Z")

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Should not be lost  
Try to search that file in your old/bkp files… but when u deregistered the pool… the transaction was ok?

Also, u don’t have any pool wallet asociated…this should be

> **[Address...](https://cardanoscan.io/address/addr1q9s7qjk38n070epxke7ldva6m5zukhqkge4dtfkz0utlcx5c5wtk0ekyaps78u92mnhx8z75vgfgl29hewyzpyr033rsa4pu5m)**
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> Address addr1q9s7qjk38n070epxke7ldva6m5zukhqkge4dtfkz0utlcx5c5wtk0ekyaps78u92mnhx8z75vgfgl29hewyzpyr033rsa4pu5m page shows the balance, controlled stake key,
> and recent transactions.

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 18:01 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/7 "2021-09-26T18:01:32Z")

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When I deregistered the transaction was ok. Or at least something saying the transaction failed didn’t pop up. Where would I find this old/bkp folder? cant seem to find it. Also, how can you tell I don’t have a wallet associated and how would I fix this? I don’t know if this matters but when I deregistered the pool I made the mistake of killing my relays before deregistering. The node was still synching tho.

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**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 18:03 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/8 "2021-09-26T18:03:50Z")

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Aaaa, then that’s why the deregistration wasn’t completed, the BP didn’t sent the transaction to the blockchain  
What version does your node run?

PS: u didn’t bkped the files when u created the pool? On an offline machine or usb

Or maybe u have a snapshot of the server before to deregister the pool?

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 18:14 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/9 "2021-09-26T18:14:50Z")

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I upgraded to 1.29. This is currently running:  
 ![glive view](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/5/4/5420466b2c019f199fac6fdc913b56747ccf1aa2.png)

Unfortunately I didn’t. I know it was bad practice from me. I saved them after I deregistered hehe. But the files I have are the same ones I see on the folder rn.

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**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 18:34 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/10 "2021-09-26T18:34:48Z")

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Yes but right now u don’t have the pool.cert file  
and I think it was removed when you tried to retire the pool  
have patience, we will try something, via teams if you want.

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [26 September 2021 18:46 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/11 "2021-09-26T18:46:23Z")

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Sounds good! I’m in no rush. We can do teams.

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**Author:** ![alexmf95](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexmf95/32/28647_2.png) [@alexmf95](https://forum.cardano.org/u/alexmf95)\
**Post date:** [1 October 2021 21:34 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cannot-retire-stake-pool/76537/12 "2021-10-01T21:34:17Z")

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Hi, just wanted to mention how this was solved in case this happens to anyone else. The problem was I did not have the pool.cert file. The file was lost when I tried to retire the pool but the transaction did not go through. To solve this, the pool.cert file was recreated using:  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/f/5/f5acbd4f82ccc68ad18d8a7fe26e877fedf1dc6b.png)  
with the appropriate file directory references and pool information.

After this I was able to retire the pool.

Thanks again to @Alexd1985 for coming up with the solution.
