# Cardano node crashed. succesfully restored. but ADA all gone **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Technical Support\ **Created:** [26 June 2019 16:27 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814 "2019-06-26T16:27:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/21 "2019-06-28T10:13:43Z")
from the old wallet… ---
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:18 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/22 "2019-06-28T10:18:29Z")
i tried about 25 times to type similar phrase within my 12 word phrase but all of them were invalid. so the chances now are zero… its frustrating… i didn’t not cause my node to crashed. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![bpoklar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/bpoklar/32/7331_2.png) [@bpoklar](https://forum.cardano.org/u/bpoklar)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:22 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/23 "2019-06-28T10:22:39Z")
Sorry to hear that. But the recovery phrase = ada . You have to keep it safe 😕 ---
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:29 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/24 "2019-06-28T10:29:37Z")
did i accidentally open another one’s wallet then? ---
**Author:** ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:35 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/25 "2019-06-28T10:35:09Z")
No. You’ve been told twice already how unlikely that is. ---
**Author:** ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:36 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/26 "2019-06-28T10:36:45Z")
If you typed invalid phrases then you were obviously not following the advice to use the list of valid words. If you do not follow our advice why should we waste our time trying to help? ---
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 10:41 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/27 "2019-06-28T10:41:28Z")
i actually used the list sir. ---
**Author:** ![damonandthesea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@damonandthesea](https://forum.cardano.org/u/damonandthesea)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 11:49 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/28 "2019-06-28T11:49:03Z")
Ahh… ok is this how it works with daedalus wallet recovery? It will ‘restore’ a wallet from any valid combination of 12 words from the BIP39 list? This would explain OP’s dilemma (i.e Daedalus not rejecting the restore, new public key, wallet balance of zero). I’m going to run the experiment on my laptop to see what happens … ---
**Author:** ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/29 "2019-06-28T12:13:23Z")
Daedalus (or btw any real crypto wallet out there) does not know which wallet you’re trying to restore. Therefore, maybe the term “restore” is misleading, because it just does it’s thing: opening the wallet with the private key based on the entered seed words. This mechanism is the same for all crypto wallets, it’s not Daedalus specific. ---
**Author:** ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:15 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/30 "2019-06-28T12:15:38Z")
> [@attwyn](#): > > i actually used the list sir. If you only used words from the list the phrase would be valid. ---
**Author:** ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:23 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/31 "2019-06-28T12:23:31Z")
The only way you can solve this is the way @rdlrt already tried to explain: 1. get the list of possible words from: [https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt](https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt) 2. go through your written words and search for similiar looking words and replace them 3. try and restore it. **You can save a lot of time if you use** [adalite.io](http://adalite.io) instead of Deadalus, because it restores instantly. ---
**Author:** ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:25 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/32 "2019-06-28T12:25:57Z")
It’s possible to get invalid seed combinations with valid words, because there is some kind of checksum involved. I’m not 100% sure how Daedalus did this but usually the last word is a checksum word for the combination of words before. (or something similar) ---
**Author:** ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:27 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/33 "2019-06-28T12:27:38Z")
Yeah, I knew that at one point then forgot it! 😄 ---
**Author:** ![damonandthesea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@damonandthesea](https://forum.cardano.org/u/damonandthesea)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 12:30 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/34 "2019-06-28T12:30:39Z")
I’m glad you brought this up… because this was my understanding as well… that typing just any random 12 words from the bip-0039 list may cause a rejection due to checksum (about to run the experiment once Daedalus finishes syncing) … I’m just curious about the behavior - OP is able to move through the restore process without getting hung up on list order or checksum in Daedalus… but perhaps I’m misunderstanding something more fundamental about how how private seeds are validated. ---
**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Salem)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 16:54 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/35 "2019-06-28T16:54:17Z")
Always trouble with words&numbers,guys is it possible to get a wallet with iris scan and fingerprint or a bad move??? ---
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 17:21 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/36 "2019-06-28T17:21:14Z")
i recovered the wallet. when i woke up this morning, i went to look into my old cellphone and voila… there is a picture of the 12 phrase. thanks everyone. i’m thinking of moving it back to the exchange. ---
**Author:** ![Donnybaseball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/donnybaseball/32/8064_2.png) [@Donnybaseball](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Donnybaseball)\ **Post date:** [28 June 2019 17:51 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/37 "2019-06-28T17:51:44Z")
Awesome news! Out of curiosity what was the issue had you had written it down incorrectly? ---
**Author:** ![attwyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@attwyn](https://forum.cardano.org/u/attwyn)\ **Post date:** [29 June 2019 07:37 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/38 "2019-06-29T07:37:35Z")
no. it was another set of 12 phrase. i don’t know what happened. what i wrote down as my 12 phrase was totally different from the one in the photo. i’m puzzled myself as this was december of 2017. ---
**Author:** ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)\ **Post date:** [29 June 2019 08:31 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/39 "2019-06-29T08:31:43Z")
Glad you got back into your wallet! But exchanges are NOT secure, and neither is a pic on your phone. You need to write down the phrase and store it in a very safe place, maybe more than one copy in different places. ---
**Author:** ![atcalypso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e99b99/32.png) [@atcalypso](https://forum.cardano.org/u/atcalypso)\ **Post date:** [29 June 2019 16:39 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814/40 "2019-06-29T16:39:27Z")
Sometimes exchanges are more secure than buggy wallets. This forum and telegram threads are good example of that. > [@RobJF](#): > > But exchanges are NOT secure [Previous page](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cardano-node-crashed-succesfully-restored-but-ada-all-gone/24814.md?page=3)