# Cnode Relay stuck at "starting"

**URL:** <https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064>\
**Category:** Setup a Stake Pool\
**Created:** [2 March 2021 00:03 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064 "2021-03-02T00:03:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![mcvetyty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@mcvetyty](https://forum.cardano.org/u/mcvetyty)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2021 00:03 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/1 "2021-03-02T00:03:44Z")

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Hope someone can help me out. I’ve been running relay nodes for almost a month now with no issues. However, today, I opened gliveview on one of my relay nodes and it was obvious something was wrong. The status initially ready “Synced 100%” but it wasn’t doing anything. I stopped the node and rebooted the server and now the node says active/running but in gliveview I’m just getting it stuck at Status “Starting” - it’s been over an hour and the same thing.

> cnode.service - Cardano Node  
> Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/cnode.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)  
> Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-03-01 23:38:39 UTC; 48min ago  
> Main PID: 63464 (cnode.sh)  
> Tasks: 14 (limit: 4683)  
> Memory: 3.2G  
> CGroup: /system.slice/cnode.service  
> ├─63464 /bin/bash /opt/cardano/cnode/scripts/cnode.sh  
> └─63578 cardano-node run --topology /opt/cardano/cnode/files/topology.json --config /opt/cardano/cnode/files/config.json --database-path /o\>
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> Mar 01 23:38:39 systemd[1]: Started Cardano Node.  
> Mar 01 23:38:40 cnode[63464]: WARN: A prior running Cardano node was not cleanly shutdown, socket file still exists. Cleaning up.  
> Mar 01 23:38:41 cnode[63578]: Listening on [http://127.0.0.1:12798](http://127.0.0.1:12798)

Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![mcvetyty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@mcvetyty](https://forum.cardano.org/u/mcvetyty)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2021 04:34 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/2 "2021-03-02T04:34:47Z")

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Going on 5 hours now and still just stuck at “Starting” - anyone? Can I just delete the database and have it re-sync?

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**Author:** ![tomdx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/tomdx/32/44498_2.png) [@tomdx](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tomdx)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2021 04:50 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/3 "2021-03-02T04:50:15Z")

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It is generally a good idea to make a backup of your block data. I only keep these files/dirs …

```auto
immutable ledger protocolMagicId

```

all else is volatile and should go.

If you `tar czf ...` the above you will get a tgz of about 3.5GB

This is useful to do every now and then and allows you to spin up new nodes real quick.

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**Author:** ![mcvetyty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@mcvetyty](https://forum.cardano.org/u/mcvetyty)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2021 05:14 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/4 "2021-03-02T05:14:10Z")

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Yes, I could see the benefit in doing that, but any idea why the node is stuck like it is? Would prefer to sort that out in case it happens again…

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**Author:** ![tomdx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/tomdx/32/44498_2.png) [@tomdx](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tomdx)\
**Post date:** [2 March 2021 05:28 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/5 "2021-03-02T05:28:42Z")

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I [run Docker images](https://tdiesler.gitbook.io/cardano/). If something goes wrong, I can restart a new node in a matter of seconds and don’t need to worry about what funky state my box has gotten into.

There is CIP about this [here](https://forum.cardano.org/t/provide-high-quality-multiarch-docker-image-and-k8s-support/47906).

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**Author:** ![MermADA](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/mermada/32/46427_2.png) [@MermADA](https://forum.cardano.org/u/MermADA)\
**Post date:** [7 March 2021 13:31 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/6 "2021-03-07T13:31:27Z")

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Were you able to get the help you needed for your problem yet? I started experiencing this with one of my nodes recently.

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**Author:** ![mcvetyty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@mcvetyty](https://forum.cardano.org/u/mcvetyty)\
**Post date:** [7 March 2021 13:48 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/7 "2021-03-07T13:48:20Z")

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I ended up basically re-installing cardano node on that server and it fixed the issue right away. Maybe give it a try?

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**Author:** ![KrakenStaking](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/krakenstaking/32/29369_2.png) [@KrakenStaking](https://forum.cardano.org/u/KrakenStaking)\
**Post date:** [7 March 2021 13:59 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/cnode-relay-stuck-at-starting/51064/8 "2021-03-07T13:59:34Z")

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I believe I saw something similar on the forum and someone used a killall to resolve the problem with the socket staying open.
