# Guild operator - Block Producer is not starting **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Technical Support\ **Created:** [31 January 2022 15:19 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354 "2022-01-31T15:19:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 15:19 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/1 "2022-01-31T15:19:20Z")
I am having the following error ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/3/5/35ecdf841f2c867b1fb8860da1ee30fef127e5ec.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/d/f/df37699d4955ddbc60dea3178e5155d33205a867.png) I am not sure how to fix. I appreciate your help ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 15:22 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/2 "2022-01-31T15:22:56Z")
you have the old binaries files in `usr/local/bin` delete them and restart the node ```auto cd usr/local./bin ls -l delete cardano-node and cardano-cli files ``` ---
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 16:58 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/3 "2022-01-31T16:58:36Z")
Thanks, It started, but now still starting after 1:33 min is it normal ? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/7/f/7f1f1980b1df28d48d4df9308de7a8309a8c7f3d.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/8/c/8c93e23bebd766ffe80e1b828f63fb5850544cd1.png) ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:07 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/4 "2022-01-31T17:07:04Z")
Yes, if u recently upgraded to 1.33.0 it will take 2-4 hours to start ---
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:12 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/5 "2022-01-31T17:12:26Z")
No it was already upgraded few days back ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:21 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/6 "2022-01-31T17:21:13Z")
It was, but it was up and running since then? ---
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:36 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/7 "2022-01-31T17:36:04Z")
Yes it was running correctly. Do I need to delete the DB? ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:45 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/8 "2022-01-31T17:45:10Z")
Nope, how is the glive now? ---
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [31 January 2022 17:48 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/9 "2022-01-31T17:48:00Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/3/e/3e4fb96484ad704d1b87d3a31e1043478bd6dfef.png) ---
**Author:** ![HT-Moh](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ht-moh/32/66146_2.png) [@HT-Moh](https://forum.cardano.org/u/HT-Moh)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 12:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/10 "2022-02-01T12:16:18Z")
I had to delete the DB, and now seems to work, but am I am not sure if the value of the forks is correct ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/e/f/efb223549bce0d1d42f55d2416480b358afc4ac7.png) ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 12:47 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/11 "2022-02-01T12:47:49Z")
it’s fine, you can ignore it, it’s related with total number of forks for the network ---
**Author:** ![T-Brex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@T-Brex](https://forum.cardano.org/u/T-Brex)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:10 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/12 "2022-02-01T15:10:05Z")
My nodes on 1.33.1 were working fine until they started going out of sync. They’re on 8-cores + 16 GB of RAM. Htop is showing that they’re peaking at 1.7% usage when I restart the node And they’ve been stuck on “Starting…” for about 13 hours now. Any idea what may have occurred? My SSD space is also only 20% used. ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/13 "2022-02-01T15:13:42Z")
check the errors with `journalctl -e -f -u cardano-node` ---
**Author:** ![T-Brex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@T-Brex](https://forum.cardano.org/u/T-Brex)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:14 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/14 "2022-02-01T15:14:30Z")
The logs are empty. Was it because it was restarted? ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:15 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/15 "2022-02-01T15:15:06Z")
then try `sudo systemctl status cardano-node` ---
**Author:** ![T-Brex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@T-Brex](https://forum.cardano.org/u/T-Brex)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:15 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/16 "2022-02-01T15:15:59Z")
> [@Alexd1985](#): > > sudo systemctl status cardano-node Unit cardano-node.service could not be found Whoa. What could’ve caused that? ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/17 "2022-02-01T15:16:34Z")
```auto sudo systemctl status cnode ``` ---
**Author:** ![T-Brex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@T-Brex](https://forum.cardano.org/u/T-Brex)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:18 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/18 "2022-02-01T15:18:01Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/a/0/a032e2d6f168e6fa5779104daee28f834e86a7a9.png) ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:18 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/19 "2022-02-01T15:18:32Z")
and `journalctl -e -f -u cnode` ---
**Author:** ![T-Brex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@T-Brex](https://forum.cardano.org/u/T-Brex)\ **Post date:** [1 February 2022 15:19 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/guild-operator-block-producer-is-not-starting/94354/20 "2022-02-01T15:19:47Z")
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