# I loved Itn and Cardano, but I may not love mainet because of a0!

**URL:** <https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428>\
**Category:** Stake Delegation\
**Created:** [26 May 2020 16:12 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428 "2020-05-26T16:12:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![kiriakos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/kiriakos/32/20987_2.png) [@kiriakos](https://forum.cardano.org/u/kiriakos)\
**Post date:** [13 November 2020 13:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/168 "2020-11-13T13:16:26Z")

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It is my very personal and niche opinion but what I think we are seeing here is a social problem.

We ranked pools and then told holders “go select one”. Ofcourse they would select the first ones in the list. And that is the problem. All Cardano applications focus on sorting one way or another on “performance”. Now a lot has been said about this but all things being equal all methods send out the wrong signals because the only metrics that matter will be available next year at the earliest. And in the end, it doesn’t matter to the holder if they make 5.54% or 5.56% ROI

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**Author:** ![ergophobia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ergophobia](https://forum.cardano.org/u/ergophobia)\
**Post date:** [4 January 2021 09:09 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/169 "2021-01-04T09:09:49Z")

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@cyberruss @kiriakos @Lars_Brunjes

Well anyways I’m of course a little disappointed that what I proposed was neither taken into account yet, nor refuted. But anyways I don’t want to spend anymore uselessly time and energy on that, so that’s good as well that we end this thread here. I think I’ve given enough information, so that the team can make decision without ignoring my “findings”.

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**Author:** ![tsipou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/tsipou/32/25184_2.png) [@tsipou](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tsipou)\
**Post date:** [8 January 2021 15:36 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/170 "2021-01-08T15:36:06Z")

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really new on community, i feel i face similar question 🙂  
and i in high level i would say, we need a “load\_Balancer” inside the algorithm to decide the resources of the available pools for the delegation.  
i dont know should be this solution translated in technical aspect…

VG,  
TTS17

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**Author:** ![XZact](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/xzact/32/60180_2.png) [@XZact](https://forum.cardano.org/u/XZact)\
**Post date:** [14 January 2021 05:21 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/171 "2021-01-14T05:21:47Z")

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> **[Cryptocurrency Egalitarianism: A Quantitative Approach - IOHK Research](https://iohk.io/en/research/library/papers/cryptocurrency-egalitarianisma-quantitative-approach/)**
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> Cryptocurrency Egalitarianism: A Quantitative Approach, Tokenomics 2019, May/2019

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**Author:** ![CosmosX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/cosmosx/32/2318_2.png) [@CosmosX](https://forum.cardano.org/u/CosmosX)\
**Post date:** [5 March 2021 06:29 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/172 "2021-03-05T06:29:12Z")

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> [@Ukraine](#):
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> There is a high probability that in a year we will see mega large pools.  
> And they will be exchanges…  
> This is already observed on the example of many projects using the corresponding algorithm.

This comment aged well!

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**Author:** ![ergophobia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ergophobia](https://forum.cardano.org/u/ergophobia)\
**Post date:** [5 March 2021 11:40 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/173 "2021-03-05T11:40:46Z")

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> This comment aged well!

I guess unfortunately it is a lot more likely that comments regarding fear of excessive centralization, or cartel problem will age better than those regarding fear of over-decentralisation where a significant part of total stake would be distributed into an infinite number of pools infinitely small.

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**Author:** ![Redoracle](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/redoracle/32/16099_2.png) [@Redoracle](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Redoracle)\
**Post date:** [21 March 2021 10:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/175 "2021-03-21T10:13:57Z")

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Are you implying that everything is fine as is now?

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**Author:** ![ergophobia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@ergophobia](https://forum.cardano.org/u/ergophobia)\
**Post date:** [22 April 2021 14:27 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/i-loved-itn-and-cardano-but-i-may-not-love-mainet-because-of-a0/33428/176 "2021-04-22T14:27:07Z")

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If you followed this thread, you might be interested by this independent post that proposes a formula that goes in the same direction than I did in this thread. It proposes a parametrizable formula, that for some parameters value ends up being equivalent to the one I propose, but is more general:

> [@Rewards distribution formula proposal](https://forum.cardano.org/t/rewards-distribution-formula-proposal/58407):
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> I’m a pool owner and I would like to share this proposal with the community, to start a discussion before the review that IOHK will do in Q3 of the rewards formula. The goal of this proposal is to incentive the decentralization, resilience and independence of the Cardano network. To do this we need stake pools with a good pledge, good size and solid ownership. Also there should be a way for new pools to be able to compete with the existing, on fair playing field. The reward distribution is a g…

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