# Is this dead?

**URL:** <https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810>\
**Category:** Smart Contracts\
**Tags:** kevm\
**Created:** [7 February 2021 23:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810 "2021-02-07T23:16:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![jordan24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/jordan24/32/26627_2.png) [@jordan24](https://forum.cardano.org/u/jordan24)\
**Post date:** [7 February 2021 23:16 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810/1 "2021-02-07T23:16:39Z")

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Hi i see the marlow and plutus things in the docs and just saw this in forum but not much talk on it. Is this still a thing? and how does it compare

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**Author:** ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)\
**Post date:** [8 February 2021 08:23 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810/2 "2021-02-08T08:23:03Z")

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Hello @jordan24,  
Marlowe and Plutus are certainly not dead, it’s just getting started. Both Playgrounds have received major updates recently:

Marlowe Playground: [https://alpha.marlowe.iohkdev.io](https://alpha.marlowe.iohkdev.io)

Plutus Playground: [https://playground.plutus.iohkdev.io](https://playground.plutus.iohkdev.io)

I’m not sure on your last part of the question. How does what compare to what?

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**Author:** ![jordan24](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/jordan24/32/26627_2.png) [@jordan24](https://forum.cardano.org/u/jordan24)\
**Post date:** [8 February 2021 21:00 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810/3 "2021-02-08T21:00:25Z")

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The reason this is in the kevm/iele thing is because that is what i was asking about being dead or not

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**Author:** ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)\
**Post date:** [9 February 2021 09:08 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810/4 "2021-02-09T09:08:37Z")

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It is not dead, it’s just getting started. Are you already in the Devcommunity Slack? You can join the early registration: [https://input-output.typeform.com/to/OJsf0XcD](https://input-output.typeform.com/to/OJsf0XcD)

or if you prefer to dig around yourself please start here with Mallet (the minimum wallet for deploying smart contracts on KEVM testnets) [https://github.com/input-output-hk/mallet/blob/master/README.md](https://github.com/input-output-hk/mallet/blob/master/README.md)

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**Author:** ![tom.dalibor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@tom.dalibor](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tom.dalibor)\
**Post date:** [20 March 2021 13:54 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/is-this-dead/46810/5 "2021-03-20T13:54:26Z")

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I see a lot of people are still having problems with the Hello World example … any idea where that is going to be fixed ?