# Quadratic Voting is not a silver bullet for Governance

**URL:** <https://forum.cardano.org/t/quadratic-voting-is-not-a-silver-bullet-for-governance/116135>\
**Category:** General Governance Conversation\
**Tags:** cip-1694\
**Created:** [30 March 2023 21:09 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/quadratic-voting-is-not-a-silver-bullet-for-governance/116135 "2023-03-30T21:09:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![SimonSallstrom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/simonsallstrom/32/47438_2.png) [@SimonSallstrom](https://forum.cardano.org/u/SimonSallstrom)\
**Post date:** [2 April 2023 17:56 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/quadratic-voting-is-not-a-silver-bullet-for-governance/116135/14 "2023-04-02T17:56:26Z")

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> [@HeptaSean](#):
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> How would you do that for identity validators?

This is why I specifically mentioned open source code and bare metal hardware, to make auditing of the oracle onboarding infrastructure.

But again, my goal isn’t to convince conclusively that this is possible. Just to detach out one somewhat, a priori, realistic way of doing it!

You can keep asking questions about details and at some point declare that I haven’t been able to convince you sufficiently etc:) which is fine

If you believe that “yes, in principle this is worthy of pursuing” (normatively) then we can have a constructive technical discussion about how to achieve it

> [@HeptaSean](#):
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> Auditors would really have to travel and they should therefore probably also get compensation for positive audits (or there would be no incentive to audit very remote oracles at all), but then there is an incentive to do fraudulent audits and we would have to audit the auditors. …

These are somewhat technical objections. And definitely solvable. How would you solve these things for example?

> [@HeptaSean](#):
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> My claim/feeling is that no such system exists, that all compromises that are realisable in the next years and acceptably accessible, still make it far too easy and reasonably cheap to create a lot of fake accounts.

What’s your metric/definition for “easy and reasonably cheap”?

any number or range to work with will d. Just as a starting point 🙂

> [@HeptaSean](#):
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> But it is far from decentralised and permissionless. They have to control their providers around the world or they could just invent iris scans/codes. And it seems very questionable to me if they can really achieve a world-wide infrastructure for that. That’s an incredibly huge endeavour.

I’m aware. But so is IOG and your internet service providers and this forum (centralised power). Point is that there are trade offs…

If we gain decentralisation of governance, where protocol parameters and use of public funds is at stake… and then we balance that with the (low imo) probability that a project like WorldCoin would somehow help malicious actors create fake IDs in order to attack the (?) Cardano network. It’s a stretch. If it ever came out, that entire billion dollar project is just dead immediately because their sole purpose is to provide this service

It’s kind of like objecting to using Ledger hardware wallet because they are centralised (which is true)

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