# Recover from old private/public key without mnemonic phrase **URL:** \ **Category:** Community Technical Support\ **Created:** [4 June 2021 11:47 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989 "2021-06-04T11:47:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Allendar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Allendar](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Allendar)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 11:47 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/1 "2021-06-04T11:47:15Z")
I had a stakepool for a little while in august of 2020, but it’s not running anymore. I noticed there is still quite some ADA in the old stake address. I still have the signing/verification keys ([https://i.postimg.cc/05YNZKYY/1.png](https://i.postimg.cc/05YNZKYY/1.png)). Is there a convenient way to use one of the CLI binaries in my macOS Daedalus Flight/Contents/MacOS/ to recover that old staking address wallet into my Daedalus so I can send the old ADA to my main wallet? Otherwise; can I instantly use the CLI tools to send the remaining ADA to my main wallet’s (one of the~) receiving address? Thank you in advance! ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 13:21 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/2 "2021-06-04T13:21:08Z")
U will need a cli node… to send the ADA out of the wallet ---
**Author:** ![Allendar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Allendar](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Allendar)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 13:44 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/3 "2021-06-04T13:44:04Z")
I have those available. I just don’t know the correct formulation on the CLI to send all ADA from my wallet to another address: [https://i.postimg.cc/m2xLKvWW/1.png](https://i.postimg.cc/m2xLKvWW/1.png) ---
**Author:** ![tomdx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/tomdx/32/44498_2.png) [@tomdx](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tomdx)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 14:55 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/4 "2021-06-04T14:55:48Z")
Its a four step process … #1 Retire the pool to get the 500 ADA deposit back #2 Withdraw all remaining staking rewards #3 Retire the the stake address to get 2 ADA deposit back #4 Send all to an external address (hopefully secured by a HW wallet) Where would you like to start? ---
**Author:** ![Allendar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Allendar](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Allendar)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 15:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/5 "2021-06-04T15:13:02Z")
#4. The pool was already retired last year. The address holds the 500 ADA. ---
**Author:** ![tomdx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/tomdx/32/44498_2.png) [@tomdx](https://forum.cardano.org/u/tomdx)\ **Post date:** [4 June 2021 15:29 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/6 "2021-06-04T15:29:43Z")
Ok, then it’s something like this … ## Get protocol parameters ```auto cardano-cli query protocol-parameters \ --out-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/protocol.json \ --mary-era \ --mainnet ``` ## Get the transaction hash and index of the UTXO to spend ```auto PAYMENT_ADDR=`cat cardano/keys/${OWNER}/payment.addr` echo "$OWNER: $PAYMENT_ADDR" cardano-cli query utxo \ --address $PAYMENT_ADDR \ --mary-era \ --mainnet TxHash TxIx Amount -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- c10171ef.. 1 35308656 lovelace ``` ## Draft the transaction ```auto TX_IN1="c10171e...#1" UTOX_LVC=`expr 35308656 + 0` TO_ADDR="addr1qxlmg..." cardano-cli transaction build-raw \ --tx-in $TX_IN1 \ --tx-out $TO_ADDR+0 \ --ttl 0 \ --fee 0 \ --out-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.draft ``` ## Calculate the fee ```auto cardano-cli transaction calculate-min-fee \ --protocol-params-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/protocol.json \ --tx-body-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.draft \ --tx-in-count 1 \ --tx-out-count 1 \ --witness-count 1 \ --mainnet > 170869 Lovelace ``` ## Calculate the change to send back to PAYMENT\_ADDR ```auto FEES_LVC=170869 SEND_LVC=`expr $UTOX_LVC - $FEES_LVC` echo "$SEND_LVC Lovelace" ``` ## Determine the TTL (time to Live) for the transaction ```auto SLOTNO=`cardano-cli query tip --mainnet | jq -c | jq ".slotNo"` TTL=`expr $SLOTNO + 3600` echo "slotNo: $SLOTNO" echo $TTL ``` ## Build the transaction ```auto cardano-cli transaction build-raw \ --tx-in $TX_IN1 \ --tx-out $TO_ADDR+$SEND_LVC \ --ttl $TTL \ --fee $FEES_LVC \ --out-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.raw ``` ## Sign the transaction ```auto cardano-cli transaction sign \ --tx-body-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.raw \ --signing-key-file /var/cardano/local/keys/${OWNER}/payment.skey \ --mainnet \ --out-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.signed ``` ## Submit the transaction ```auto cardano-cli transaction submit \ --tx-file /var/cardano/local/scratch/tx.signed \ --mainnet ``` ---
**Author:** ![Allendar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@Allendar](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Allendar)\ **Post date:** [8 June 2021 07:24 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/recover-from-old-private-public-key-without-mnemonic-phrase/63989/7 "2021-06-08T07:24:31Z")
Sorry for the late reply; I was a bit busy. I needed to make some small adjustments and figure out the CARDANO\_NODE\_SOCKET\_PATH, but it all worked. Thank you kindly good sir!