# Setting up CNTOOLS for the first time (no menu with ./cntools.sh) **URL:** \ **Category:** Setup a Stake Pool\ **Created:** [24 August 2021 08:44 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051 "2021-08-24T08:44:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 08:44 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/1 "2021-08-24T08:44:16Z")
I am trying to bring up the cntools.sh menu and it just shows me dev updates and thats it. I am trying to configure a hardware wallet, and cant figure out how to bring up the menu. ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 09:26 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/2 "2021-08-24T09:26:25Z")
Okay I got the command ./cntools.sh -o to work. But Im wondering what do I set the pool name to in ENV? is this just a folder name or is it important? Because my pool name is “🕱” and the ticker is SKULL ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:00 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/3 "2021-08-24T10:00:27Z")
> [@godofrefuse](#): > > I am trying to bring up the cntools.sh menu and it just shows me dev updates and thats it. I am trying to configure a hardware wallet, and cant figure out how to bring up the menu. Press q to exit? ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:07 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/4 "2021-08-24T10:07:02Z")
I got it to open with -O command. I noticed i didn’t have my VRF.VKEY in the folder. I am also not synced yet, I did a cncli.sh validate epoch test and told me im not synced. im guessing hot.vkey skey = KES ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:08 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/5 "2021-08-24T10:08:47Z")
\*\* WARNING \*\* Pool 🕱 in need of KES key rotation Keys expired! : 00:23:30 ago press any key to proceed … its saying my KES is expired … is it because im not fully synced? ```auto >> POOL >> LIST ``` 🕱 ID (hex) : Registered : NO KES expiration date : ERROR - : failure during KES calculation for 🕱 press any key to proceed … I have my block + relay in amazon aws I’m setting up 2 at home right now, so I havent updated my pool.cert quite yet. ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:13 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/6 "2021-08-24T10:13:07Z")
> [@godofrefuse](#): > > its saying my KES is expired … is it because im not fully synced? Yes, and because the node didn’t started as a BP yet ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:22 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/7 "2021-08-24T10:22:16Z")
How do I download my Hardware wallet key? I have it setup in CNTOOLS and recognized ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:29 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/8 "2021-08-24T10:29:58Z")
you will need to use cntools - wallet - import - hw wallet or if you have the files already you can upload to the new server inside the priv/wallet/wallet\_name/ ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:30 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/9 "2021-08-24T10:30:50Z")
I already imported the hw wallet, im trying to get the key to add to pool.cert ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:31 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/10 "2021-08-24T10:31:21Z")
Okay I see where the files are thankyou ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:36 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/11 "2021-08-24T10:36:26Z")
Which one is it? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/c/4/c499996ae20d639804c53796d7bbf9cee62a8765.png) stake.vkey? ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:37 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/12 "2021-08-24T10:37:33Z")
it’s not clear for me what you are trying to do 🙂 because if u will use cntools you will not need anymore to create the transactions manually cntools has the paths to all necessary files you only must go to cntools - pool - modify and modify the pool parameters… ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:40 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/13 "2021-08-24T10:40:40Z")
Well how does cntools create the pool.cert ? Normally I have to export some files \>\> to air gapped machine \> and do commands to update pool.cert. On my Amazon servers (current pool) my stake is a seed address. and I did it with coin cashew, so I am transitioning to cntools ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:44 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/14 "2021-08-24T10:44:15Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/6/b/6bf5d2d306a5e269704c69818d9bbffbbb5e99dc.png) Im trying to figure out this CNCLI stuff at the moment [https://cardano-community.github.io/guild-operators/Scripts/cncli/](https://cardano-community.github.io/guild-operators/Scripts/cncli/) These commands don’t do anything: 1. `sudo systemctl start cnode-cncli-sync.service` (starts `leaderlog` , `validate` & `ptsendslots` automatically) 2. `sudo systemctl start cnode-logmonitor.service` 3. `sudo systemctl start cnode-cncli-ptsendtip.service` ( **optional but recommended** ) Not exactly sure what this means 1. `$CNODE_HOME/scripts/cncli.sh migrate ` where is the location to the directory containing all blocks\_.json files. ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:46 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/15 "2021-08-24T10:46:12Z")
> Well how does cntools create the pool.cert ? Normally I have to export some files \>\> to air gapped machine \> and do commands to update pool.cert. that’s why cntools is cool, it has the scripts behind (inside the code) > On my Amazon servers (current pool) my stake is a seed address. and I did it with coin cashew, so I am transitioning to cntools ok, for that wallet you wiil need to create in priv/wallet/ another folder where you will copy the files from your old server (amazon) ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:47 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/16 "2021-08-24T10:47:01Z")
What old files are you talking about? I copied my current kes, op.cert, vrf.vkey, etc. Do I need my air gapped files? ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:47 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/17 "2021-08-24T10:47:39Z")
need to install the cncli run again ./prereqs.sh -c (c=cncli) should be in cd~/tmp (prereqs.sh script) ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:51 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/18 "2021-08-24T10:51:48Z")
Okay all that stuff is running now, I forgot to run deploy-as-systemd.sh afterwards Im at about 63% sync, what should I work on? in the interim? This is different ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/3X/b/c/bc047e3a72a135f0948e00ceabcecd87f5b64250.png) ---
**Author:** ![Alexd1985](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/alexd1985/32/23759_2.png) [@Alexd1985](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Alexd1985)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:52 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/19 "2021-08-24T10:52:57Z")
if you want to speed up the sync process you can download the db from your running node and upload to your local node ---
**Author:** ![godofrefuse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/godofrefuse/32/26979_2.png) [@godofrefuse](https://forum.cardano.org/u/godofrefuse)\ **Post date:** [24 August 2021 10:53 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051/20 "2021-08-24T10:53:30Z")
Once it is sync, is there any topology files i need to edit for block producer / relay. How do I do a new pool cert / kes key [Next page](https://forum.cardano.org/t/setting-up-cntools-for-the-first-time-no-menu-with-cntools-sh/70051.md?page=2)