# Stolen ada from my wallet

**URL:** https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365
**Category:** Community Technical Support
**Created:** [20 July 2019 11:48 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365 "2019-07-20T11:48:51Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author: ![Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/felipe_rohnelt/32/13046_2.png) [@Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Felipe_Rohnelt)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 11:48 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/1 "2019-07-20T11:48:51Z")

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Hello to everyone.  
I am a holder, I’ve bought a little of cardano few years ago, I use Daedalus to keep it. But in 08/17/2018 I has a unknown transaction that take all my coins. Had some way to save my little money back? I was stolen? Or it’s a migration?  
ID transaction  
172bc512d412bd59b72b76c53631a6809ac5c49f3e8d7f05908d5350fcc3f51  
Answer any future questions  
Yes, I use a paper wallet.  
My pc didn’t infected  
I’ve install Daedalus only to keep ada  
I’ve uninstalled before take ada  
And now I have 0 ada

Thank to everyone

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### Author: ![RobJF](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/robjf/32/8069_2.png) [@RobJF](https://forum.cardano.org/u/RobJF)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 12:06 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/2 "2019-07-20T12:06:08Z")

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That transaction seems not to exist. Check that you copied it correctly.

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### Author: ![Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/felipe_rohnelt/32/13046_2.png) [@Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Felipe_Rohnelt)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:31 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/3 "2019-07-20T13:31:06Z")

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Only two transactions

 ![IMG_20190720_084600](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/2X/c/cf421c62b52f29b4cfe67a59022c55043434d47d.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/felipe_rohnelt/32/13046_2.png) [@Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Felipe_Rohnelt)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:32 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/4 "2019-07-20T13:32:01Z")

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Thank you, I was on hold and couldn’t reply, so I’ve create a new account

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### Author: ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:33 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/5 "2019-07-20T13:33:19Z")

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ADA is gone, that’s for sure. It to this address:[https://seiza.com/blockchain/address/DdzFFzCqrht5QLwwTnekXLyrTMnYkanm1SDV5Vu7Z1GiAcXYg5bS27cwDTVYZ4xyj3gLjZfsjdynUegwzML2Gm8Np8p8EddHh3uW1FCv](https://seiza.com/blockchain/address/DdzFFzCqrht5QLwwTnekXLyrTMnYkanm1SDV5Vu7Z1GiAcXYg5bS27cwDTVYZ4xyj3gLjZfsjdynUegwzML2Gm8Np8p8EddHh3uW1FCv)

then to:

> **[Seiza - Cardano Blockchain Explorer for ADA](https://seiza.com/blockchain/address/DdzFFzCqrhsfkegDcdUJAGBRoUP2LVakkby6ntdckcURzBsKmNJ7HmQ6LBwLZxTRVBvhZzuFuX9KUpraDcqhJavm35yeXgS2keJPHfKB)**
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> Seiza is an easy to use webpage to find and verify information in the Cardano blockchain. This blockchain explorer allows you to search for epochs, slots, transactions and addresses.

  
What’s interesting on this address and if you follow others, all transactions are split into 5 ADA:  
 ![06](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/cardano/original/2X/b/bb9ae6f12d5e390122a97a775e3dc2095d47b328.png)

Highly likely that you entered your secret key into a malicious app / programm or installed a wallet from some kind of strange source.

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### Author: ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:35 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/6 "2019-07-20T13:35:49Z")

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just saw “Migrated Wallet” in your screenshot. This is legit, it happens when you upgrade Daedalus from any version before 0.12.0. It has nothing to do with the ADA being gone. (obvious, because the transaction was in 2018)

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### Author: ![Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/felipe_rohnelt/32/13046_2.png) [@Felipe\_Rohnelt](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Felipe_Rohnelt)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:37 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/7 "2019-07-20T13:37:17Z")

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Thank you for help.

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### Author: ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)
#### Post date: [20 July 2019 13:38 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/8 "2019-07-20T13:38:10Z")

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Do you remember installing some kind of other software? Trying out some kind of app, or anything a year ago?

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### Author: ![The\_Cryptoviser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/the_cryptoviser/32/22507_2.png) [@The\_Cryptoviser](https://forum.cardano.org/u/The_Cryptoviser)
#### Post date: [22 July 2019 18:33 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/9 "2019-07-22T18:33:44Z")

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Hi everyone,  
From what I gather, this was not a loss or theft, but an upgrade in daedalus and the coins are NOT lost, just moved to the new wallet. If this statement is incorrect, please let me know.

Few other questions:

- Can you all elaborate on “do you remember installing some kind of other software”? Like what type of software could steal ADA from a wallet? How can this be avoided?

- Only funds would be able to be stolen if, (1) malware was actively monitoring what was happening on infected computer, (2) private key was actually keyed in by the user on infected computer.? — Are both these statements accurate?

- If you are using a cold storage wallet that is offline, is this possible for malware to steal funds?

Want to make sure I am in the know so I can keep an eye out for any similar issues.

Thanks

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### Author: ![adatainment](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/adatainment/32/81481_2.png) [@adatainment](https://forum.cardano.org/u/adatainment)
#### Post date: [22 July 2019 19:25 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/10 "2019-07-22T19:25:20Z")

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> [@The\_Cryptoviser](#):
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> If this statement is incorrect, please let me know.

It’s incorrect. The wallet data migration of Daedalus 0.12 did not send ada to a new address (or wallet), it was about how the blockchain data is stored in files.

Also note Daedalus 0.12 was released in November 2018, the transaction that cleared the wallet did happen in August 2018.

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### Author: ![phillypmack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/58f4c7/32.png) [@phillypmack](https://forum.cardano.org/u/phillypmack)
#### Post date: [22 July 2019 19:44 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/11 "2019-07-22T19:44:30Z")

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Not on my personal computer, but I’ve use the Daedalus on my Enterprise computer, that could be infected.  
I don’t know what software could do that, Sorry.

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### Author: ![The\_Cryptoviser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/the_cryptoviser/32/22507_2.png) [@The\_Cryptoviser](https://forum.cardano.org/u/The_Cryptoviser)
#### Post date: [22 July 2019 21:41 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/12 "2019-07-22T21:41:32Z")

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Thanks for clarifying!

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### Author: ![Ghostwheel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forum.cardano.org/ghostwheel/32/12764_2.png) [@Ghostwheel](https://forum.cardano.org/u/Ghostwheel)
#### Post date: [23 July 2019 07:45 UTC](https://forum.cardano.org/t/stolen-ada-from-my-wallet/25365/13 "2019-07-23T07:45:31Z")

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I remember at least one person installing a legitimate-looking wallet app from an unofficial source, and discovering later on it had sent all their ADA to unknown addresses. Distrust anything you can’t download & verify directly through official Cardano channels…

Keeping your computer clean & malware-free should be done on general principle, of course. There’s probably no technical reason why a third-party application couldn’t brute-force its way into your wallet and steal your crypto. But why would anyone bother developing that as long as unsuspecting users can be tricked into simply handing them the keys? 😉
