Well I am saying it has no intrinsic value… (extrinsic as you say)
and Its not there is no meaning, the meaning is price speculation, there is only demand because they believe they can sell it for higher later - and yes that is what gives it its current market value, this demand. A classic ponzi scheme, with a very good “story” which is why it has fooled so many, and why it can take a long time to deflate and revert to Its intrinsic value of 0 - this can take many years, because there wont be any revelation to the masses, It will come through reality kicking in through the laws of economics. Because despite what many people believe, things are not valued through subjective opinion.
“If people believe it has value, it will have value”
This is not how the world works. Which is exactly why the outcome is predictable, and set in stone, even before it happens.
The current value of Bitcoin is not because people believe it has value, it is originated from the demand of the speculation. This demand gives it a market price. People “actions” of putting up USD to trade for BTC - but the important part is looking at, why people are taking this “action”
ADA as of now is in the same boat, no intrinsic value, Its again the same speculative demand. Now what is being priced in, is potential but currently unrealized value.
If people are using the Cardano blockchain for actual use cases they will need ADA to pay for that usage. Here in comes the intrinsic value, the organic demand. Its like Oil, nobody cares about oil, but we need oil because we need it for use cases, like running our car etc. That is why Oil has intrinsic value… Nobody needs to believe in Oil. Even if everyone believed it should be priced at 1$ or a 1000$, it wouldn’t matter. Because that is not how things are priced, but upon supply and demand of the markets which are real human actions not thoughts or beliefs (that represents human behavior, as well as limits of physical and economic economic laws of the real world)
This is why if ADA has organic demand, it will have intrinsic value, and when it does, you can build monetary value upon it. But it has to be a commodity first, and money after.
This is where ADA sets apart from Bitcoin, it actually has potential to gain intrinsic value, where Bitcoin in Its current form, doesnt. Because a Bitcoin cant be used for anything - nobody needs bitcoin - taking advantage of Its current liquidity to transfer value, is not a use-case. Any liquid instrument or Cryptocurrency, can be used for this.
If there was ONLY Bitcoin, and it wasnt open source, and there was no other digital currency, yes it could actually work in theory - because there could be intrinsic value for use-cases of a digital currency, and if Bitcoin was THE ONLY currency you could use, then that would be something unique and proprietary about it.
Similar to like a Element in the periodic table.
So there is a half-truth to the Bitcoin story, and because most people dont even know how our current monetary system works (even though they think they do) they also dont understand why Bitcoin cant work.
Anyone who says the Dollar is backed by faith, or belief, has absolutely no clue.
It is this faulty belief that has tricked many libertarians and others to believe that if the Dollar can be backed by faith (which it isnt) Bitcoin can too… Or if Gold can be backed by faith (which it isnt) Bitcoin can too.
and no, It is not that people will come to the right conclusion or truth about this that will change this, it will be the law of economics, because again, as Ive mentioned, what people believe doesn’t matter at all. The law of economics always prevails.