Cardano Foundation is a scam

Cardano can benefit from a functional effective
non-profit Cardano Foundation. I want the foundation to exist and behave as a wonderful foundation.

However, Community members based governance should/will take the mantle of leadership, retire the Genesis keys, implement Treasury reimbursement, and establish annual budgets (During Voltaire).

CF will be fine with 675M. During Voltaire CF can choose to fund parts of the members based organization or competitively request and earn a budget democratically from the treasury on merit.

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Foundation shills and zealots with special interests are out in full force.

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Agreed, they’ll be gone with Voltaire, or even sooner via fork.

When leading devs building the very dapps people are most excited about on the chain start talking about needing to fork…

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It’s hard to take anything you type seriously. Your title, and comments are trollish. If you want something seriously done, be mature and write like you have an education.

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Couldn’t agree more with this sentiment, though it is incorrectly phrased.
The Cardano Foundation is not a technical leader, we have IOG taking lead there. They have not provided KPIs for the community to judge their success by. They hold one of three keys to enact a hardfork combinator event and yet truly have provided nothing of value.

Hiring even talented individuals is not beneficial unless those people have goals that they can achieve.

I’ve come to the conclusion that they exist to make people believe that Charles Hoskinson himself is not the only person running the network in spite of the fact that through Emurgo and IOG which are privately owned organisations he does in fact.

I am not a troll but the SPO of NASEC pool since epoch 213 so hardly a short term participant either.

I agree that CF should be held accountable for producing regular weekly KPI’s. They should step up to the plate and prove what they are doing. If they don’t, the community will continue to lose trust in them. Seems like an easy solution.

forking cardano because you dont like how CF behave is just plain wrong. should CF be more transparent about their goals and doings? sure. but using twitter polls/dm as factual proof about how the whole chains feels about the foundation doesnt look very bright. social media tend to be a pot of blind following and exaggeration. it can be used as one of many references to sustain a point but not as its being used in this thread. good things take time and microwave society cant wait for nothing. Twitter rants are the easier route since it gets more engagement. thoughtful solutions doesnt get many engagment farming as twitter rants. i like when people point out problems but bring solutions for them. forking is not one of them.

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@Alex_Norris @havealoha Can I ask where do you guys usually look for updates from the Cardano Foundation as I feel we just don’t have enough penetration in the channels or people look at the wrong place / don’t follow the right channels. For example, have any of you seen these recent updates?

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@adatainment I missed every one of the blog articles above… and I’ve been following the work of the Cardano Foundation for nearly 3 years now. I do remember when this blog was launched, including how sad & frustrating it was to have no RSS feed from the blog page (which itself doesn’t even have complete metadata):

Since there’s no way to syndicate or get automatic notification for new entries published to that blog, potential readers have to rely on centralised & arbitrary social networking for the new article releases.

How nice it would be if the CF designers would simply use standards developed over 20 years ago (and still used today for the decentralised semantic web) to syndicate & serialise blog entries:

I also recall, and we can still see today, that the CF formerly used Medium for its blog… which automatically generates RSS links for all channels & authors. When the CF blog moved from Medium to this proprietary site, all these vital community updates effectively went into the dark. :disappointed:

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Robert, thanks for letting me know. We urgently need to work on our news penetration and also post the articles on the forum (again).

Regarding RSS: for forum categories you can just add ā€œ.rssā€ to any category or tag link and you will get the RSS feed. Example for news category:

Link to the news category is: https://forum.cardano.org/c/english/announcements/13

The link to the RSS feed is: https://forum.cardano.org/c/english/announcements/13.rss

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yes, it’s good to know that Discourse── as well as Medium, WordPress, Drupal, and any reliable content management system── all work that way. The same cannot be said for the proprietary design of cardanofoundation.org so I hope this longtime industry standard feature can be added soon.

For reference, the IOG blog doesn’t have an obvious RSS link either:

https://iohk.io/en/blog

… but you can dig it out of the web page source: https://iohk.io/feed.xml

Getting back to the original subject: I think that periodically incorporating feedback about the CF web sites themselves will certainly help bring the CF closer to the community :nerd_face:

ā€œBe mature and write like you have an educationā€?
I’m not here to convince people of my credentials - and your condescending attitude says more about you than it says about me.

My concern is that when CF do publish activity reports, they’re way too wordy and most people just won’t read. I have the attention span of a fish with ADHD, and I just won’t read anything more than a few sentences unless I have a good incentive to do that.
I saw there was an update recently, and it was too much for me as someone who is vaguely interested to read, most people will just skip over it. You need bullet points, and they need to be interesting, not longwinded explanations of things people aren’t that excited about to begin with.

Maybe re-read your title and writing style. You claim CF is a scam. Look into the definition. You provided no evidence as such. You have complaints about its activity and effectiveness. Ok, that’s something that is fine for this forum. But that isn’t a scam. When I read a title that says CF is a scam, I am concerned that they are forging numbers, stealing ADA etc. That isn’t at all what is happening, nor even what you claim! If you can’t write effectively to convey your point, it’s hard to take you seriously. Calm down before you launch into a tirade filled post.

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So you disagree with me and have decided that in order to win the argument, you should try to belittle my abilities and credentials. That says more about you than it says about me. I have read my original post, it was intentional.

I can’t disagree with you because you can’t make a coherent point. There isn’t a scam. Thanks for wasting our time.

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One can take exception to the practices of the Cardano Foundation without throwing the word ā€œscamā€ around like so many of the most ignorant critics of Cardano in general are inclined to do about the whole project. Especially since you’re effectively accusing CF of illegal behavior with zero evidence to show in support of it.

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