what the hell is going on here? no need to apologies just explanations. how are all those pools related…
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so much for changing the rules to be more fair 
please answer my question.
you looks nice guy that you dont want to harm people.
it is great for our Community to stay healthy, if you collaborate
That’s my pool. I’m the owner and the operator of the pool. Why is it not a legitimate pool to be delegated by the IOG? I have a Telegram with over 200 ADA holders. The link of that Telegram group is displayed on the metadata file as a Homepage.
In addition, I have another group on Facebook with over 3000 members. I have been supporting them since 2017, and that group is privacy to prevent other untrusted accounts, you can see the attached image. tn|1000x413
Those details were listed in full when I signed up for the IOG fiduciary assistance program.!
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what is your relationship with FIMI Pool?
either the owner of FIMI or the operator of FIMI.
this all seems way more than a scam, extremely weird situation…
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So is this a combination of two separate issues?
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several pool owners using the same pool operator, thus having the same relays? Perhaps a problem for decentralization but not nefarious.
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certain multi-pools sneakily trying to disguise them selves as a single-pool operator?
Hello Duc, I am not saying that your pool is not legitimate nor that it’s not eligible for IOG delegation. I just said that if your pool is legitimate then I can understand your frustration and concerns about this whole situation.
I think best for you would be to separate yourself from other pools that were sharing this same infrastructure, and setup your own relays and servers, instead of using some shared setup with 50 other pools, many of them being fake ticker pools.
You also need to understand that there are many community SPOs who spent lot of time and effort setting up and maintaining their pools who are simply disappointed and surprised by the dishonest behaviour of the imposter pools and are righfully upset about it.
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Your warnings are good for the community. As a Cardano community member, I appreciate you for what you’ve done.
However, I disagree about the way you are encouraging the SPO community to not peer to our relays just because our pools are connected to some relay. This seriously affected my reputation and honor in the SPO community.
I am the owner of the TIGER pool and the operator as a service for some others such as: 2MIN, BOLAC, SANDA, ALI33, CAHEO, CAMAP, CAVOI…
But before I give some more explanations, please clear me some of the following questions:
1) Can pool owners authorize some one to operate their pools? and
2) Can someone operate many pools for another owners as a service?
3) Can different SPOs in a same community be close relationship with others?
4) Does an SPO that actively support members of their community in a long time worthy to be delegated by IOG or CF?
5) Can a pool owner ask their community members to vote for another pool to be in the top 30 Sundae winners?
Please!
RE: FIKA and GINGR pools:
As we have responded on Twitter:
To maximize the Security of our pools and the Cardano-EcoSystem we both a service that provides Cardano-specific DOS- & DDOS-Protection as first-layer for the public relays.
We also have multiple private relays. I have 4 in different locations.
It is extremely difficult to maintain a sustainable single pool operation as is, please kindly ask the SPOs before accusing them in public. Many thanks.
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they dont give answers
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don’t expect any
Owner, operator can be one or two or more individuals (many can combine ADA to raise pledge up). Owner keeps the controlling keys which control the registration; operator decides on core and relays. In this case, owner (MEKON - myself) and operator are two different parties. I pay a fee to use the operating services.
To answer your question on why this shared operator allowed the imposter pools, I think the question should be on whether the operator aware of the pools as imposters? The registration process doesn’t include (by pass) the operator; the owner handles this and when done just hands the operating keys to the operator.
According to adapools.org this was posted on telegram.
btw something interresting - most of these scam pools were funded from someone, who is delegating to this (KID) pool :) so, personally I dont believe this is charity pool :)
After read topic, I tested a page fimi.vn and find something interesting. I believe that all pools were operated by a person.!
Sorry, I use my private account. But we need to announce other people in the community
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Dear All,
I am owner of fimi.vn.
I am the operator of most of the pools on your list. I have provided pool starting and operating services in Vietnam for over a year. Just to be clear, with Cardano staking operation, the owner(s) and operator can be one (same) or two entities (different); the owner hold the controlling keys, including the registration information.
I am very sorry about the scam incident. Scam is never a good thing and I personally do not support any such action. It negatively impacts the network and impacts the environment where we operate within. That included many other legitimate pools which used my services.
I had received offers to operate scam pools but had not been aware of the scam until MEKON pool pointed it out. We completely stopped providing the service and requested the removal of the above scam pools shortly after.
However, information on the registry of the scam pools had not been changed, leading to the latest discovery. Our pool operation community in Vietnam has condemned this and put pressure to stop this scam immediately and the community will see the results within the next 24 hours.
I can confirm that the remaining pools are completely honest, and each has different owner. They are the victims of this incident. Let me sincerely apologize to them and this community.
For a transparent and fair Cardano community, thank you for your research and raising the concerns so we can act in a timely manner. I will have to be more cautious when providing my services.
So much thanks to all Community!
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you can explain why these pool names 0PCT2 SPS6 RAY6 RAY7 MELD4, etc … in your file store on your website fimi.vn, if you didn’t create these pools, so who can create them. Actually, now cannot access that file on your website :))) lol
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and you were operating all those pools using the same 3-4 relays?
wow so much for decentralization lately
Hi @thetruth,
Thank you for your reply.
It’s simply a file that stores Linux commands so I can operate multiple pools easily. It has nothing to do with pool creation.
And I’m not the creator of that pool (It’s hard to prove this, of course).
Pool owners always send me a set of keys so I can operate their pool.
Thanks!
Hi @Xpriens ,
Those are just the relay domains that I make public for the pool owners to declare for convenience. The actual number of relays will be more than 3-4. And BP doesn’t always just connect to public relays.
Thanks