Wait for the detailed description on https://www.midnight.gd/ once the claim portal has actually opened. It is not open now.
From what we heard up to now, you probably do not even need to create a new address yourself, but the claim portal just instructs your wallet app to do it automatically.
Do not believe anyone sending you direct messages! There are already enough scam attempts going on.
Never give your seed phrase to anyone!
If you just sign a message on your Ledger, your keys cannot be stolen.
But if you give the seed phrase of the Ledger away, all its security is void.
Can you point me to the source of this statement? I’d be concerned for many pool owners whose primary ada holdings — often in a pledge address created without a wallet passphrase — aren’t & couldn’t be associated wtih a “wallet app”.
That they – the Midnight claim portal team – request a special API function to get an unused address from Eternl wouldn’t make a whole lot of sense if they did not intend to use it to make that part automatic.
That does not mean that they actually managed to implement it in the end. They – IOG – have promised a lot that turned out to be quite different – often very underwhelming – in the end.
And it does not mean that that cannot be overridden by an unused address of the user’s choice. I sure hope that they offer that.
I wouldn’t be too sure that they offer a path for that. What is verbatim on https://www.midnight.gd/how-to-get-night is that you have to signData a summary of your claim:
For the average Cardano user, they will surely offer that as a dApp.
It would be possible to also offer something for SPOs where they can download the data and sign them on command line. But haven’t heard if they plan to do that, offer documentation and support for it. Wouldn’t bet on it.
(Problem is: If it only pops up once the portal launches, time is limited. They’d only have 60 days to offer work-arounds.)
Alternative is to import the .skey files to Eternl. Then, a dApp connection can be done with it. But still no unused address for obvious reasons. So, still the hope that they just offer a manual override.
This would be disturbing if that were the only way forward. For 5 years running, our pool’s pledge address private key has never seen the other side of an air gap.
Unless I’ve misunderstood, to claim with a dApp we’d have to load the private key into an Eternl wallet synced with the chain: i.e. on a machine & browser having Internet access.
But impossible to say anything definitive before the portal is started or they release more in-depth documentation.
Maybe just contact the Midnight team and ask them if and how SPOs can claim for air-gapped keys. I think, their main communication path is Discord. (I’d be curious to hear the results.)
Will do in next few days & will post the response here (assuming their team or a different query doesn’t answer it first). As you say it’s vital to ensure attention is being paid to this before the beginning of the 60-day claim window.
yes, that was from a third party user (@_ilap) in response to my own query, without providing a link to whatever document that was taken from: so we have no way from that screenshot to know what will be expected of us, nor to see how that recommendation evolves over time.
It was more reassuring what @ATADA confirmed immediately afterwards about cardano-signer being able to formulate a Midnight rewards claim from an offline address.
For me is even much more strange, i claimed using Yoroi with my HW. i create also a new hot wallet with 0 balance. When i finished the process and it looks everything ok, the destiantion addr that appears in Airdrop menu of Yoroi is another one that my 0 balance! WTFCK? from where it comes this addr!? the balance 0 addr, still doesnt have utxo to check if its one of them… i dont understant it and if i try to remake the process is keeping always this strange addr, it doesnt change ….
Yoroi just creates a new unused address in the same wallet and uses that automatically. More was never requested. Nobody ever said that people should create new accounts or wallets. Just that an unused address is needed.
Yoroi seems to have opted for not botherin the users at all and just deciding for itself which it wants to use. Not the worst idea given the confusion everywhere.
If you want to have more fine-grained control, actually want a specific wallet/account/address to be used, you can always use the claim portal instead of Yoroi’s builtin functionality and override the choice of Yoroi by your manual choice.
Not first-hand, but: they just use usual unused addresses in same account in Lace – which is kind of their “own” wallet app. There is no way that they can ensure that those stay unused for months. That requirement would call for trouble.
They explicitly say that the same address can be used for multiple claims. The second processed claim would see the address as already used by the first. And later thaws also by earlier ones.
So, I would be very surprised if they make another problem at this point.
How do I claim Midnight when I added the addresses manualy? It gives me a unique claim message, but it is not able to use Yoroi and my ledger to sign. In Yoroi I cannot sign, because me Wallet is used and it ends in a 400.
The origin wallet has to sign a message. Would be surprised if Tangem had that functionality implemented. (They took years to implement staking.)
If you chose the seed phrase way of setting it up, you can import the seed phrase in a software wallet app (not hardware wallet secure anymore then, would move to a completely new wallet afterwards).
If you haven’t chosen seed phrase originally, that cannot be changed later/now.
Drop not working for me. I collect wallet browsing and my xaman wallet comes up only. I have tried a number of times. How to I get this function to recognize a ledger wallet?