Ledger Seed is different from Daedalus/Yoroi/Adalite seed

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Not exactly:

  • Like already said above: The derivation path is exactly the same. The root key derivation is what is different. They start with a different m at the beginning of the path, but then use the same one. A path does not specify what needs to be done completely. In no cryptocurrency. You always need some information about a) what to start with and b) which concrete derivation algorithm to use with the numbers in the path.
  • My tool only does seed recovery. It doesn’t output the keys in any form usable by any other tools, wasn’t meant for it at the time. There are better developed and maintained things already out there:
  • @ATADA has integrated Ledger derivation in his cardano-signer: https://github.com/gitmachtl/cardano-signer#generate-a-keypair-from-hardware-wallet-mnemonics
  • The Python bip_utils have the Ledger derivation implemented: https://github.com/ebellocchia/bip_utils/blob/master/readme/cardano.md#ledger-1
  • You can get something that can be used with cardano-cli out of them, but as far as I can see cardano-wallet – like all the end-user wallet apps – doesn’t support import from key files or other encodings of the key pairs themselves, just from seed phrase – using what they think is the correct derivation method, not Ledger: https://cardano-foundation.github.io/cardano-wallet/api/edge/#operation/postWallet

It is, by the way, not that special to Cardano that same phrases lead to different wallets in other wallet apps. Some time ago, I did a comparison of what Atomic Wallet and Exodus do for different cryptocurrencies. There are a lot of cases where they differ, sometimes one of them uses what seems to be the standard in that ecosystem, sometimes the other. Seems to depend on which intern did the implementation back then. And once they have settled for an implementation, they somehow need to stick with that because incompatibility with itself would be even worse from a user’s viewpoint (and probably also because they don’t really care).

In the case of Cardano, Atomic Wallet and Trust Wallet use the standard everybody else uses and Exodus uses some weird invention nobody else has ever implemented. So, I’d stay away from the latter.