I was 100% sure that the purpose of the “ Guardian “ is personal interests!
It’s always about people that feel themselves smarter!
Again humans showing how they could never agreed!
The same flaws, the same set of mind, the same self interest
I think as there are more stupid people to fool is for this that all this formation comes to light 
At the end, the guardian or wherever spinoff group from guardian will fail!!!
Let’s talk in couple months … so sad Cardano 
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Guess it’s centralization vs decentralization 
Dear Gentleman,
I have added the 70-80% of effort / value to the “Liberate the Cardano Foundation” mission, that established the brand of the Guardians of Cardano. (It’s not arrogance, it’s a fact.)
I can’t hold this information any longer and you made me very emotional.
If you like we can go into the details on this, line item by line item, who did what.
I was fine and it was fair and part of the team spirit to share the credits equally, but now I am not really sure what the hell is happening here.
First you kick me out of the Telegram channel and silence me, then you write a dirty message to a leader in the Cardano Ecosystem to discredit me, while spreading lies that I am removed from the movement.
It’s enough! Please stop attacking me.
Let our group of four wonderful people move on and focus on the future and so should you
Peace.
That is why you create a system encouraging and enabeling the good in human behaviour
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Id ego superego. I feel great when I do Charity. Ofcurse you feel you want ownership of something you think is your work or part if your work. Truth is also this was the 6k community who signed the petition enabeling the guardians to push as far as we did.
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Understand you …
and if those people signed it’s seems to me impressive
My question is, those people actually know what they are voting for ?
Those people took pretty seriously the situation and give it a thought before signing ?
Are all those people + guardians capables of taking those decision for all community ?
Please remember in a democratic way, 11 idiots wins against 10 geniuses!
Now, what benefit actually is achieved ? Parsons resigning, please don’t say this as the situation in my opinion is worse now!
So what the purspose off all this ?
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I thought we all are agreed as we are somehow in this space
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Good questions. No not all 6k where really into the petition. But crowds do have wisdom this is the basis for most market theories even stock market. My personal opinion after having read a lot of information on parsons yes it is better off in the long run.
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Wasn’t it in the interest of us all to bring all the details about Parsons doings to light? I’m really thankful that these people sacrificed their time for the Guardian project. Yes, it was in their own personal interest. And it was in my interest and in your interest too.
What we can see now is that it’s very difficult to keep a group of people united when an urgent common goal disappears. Everyone is different and has different other goals and a different way of doing things.
The big question for me is: How can we, the Cardano community, act as a form of regulation / guardians in favour of the Cardano project without having to deal with these all too human addiction to recognition and power? This is the reason why I am so sure that everyone should stop after such an effort and become an ordinary member of the community again. There should not be an institution of just some people whos “duty” is to act as guardians of Cardano while the rest sits comfortable and let’s them do the work.
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Please men, I really respect you and your opinions
The crowd had wisdom, where ?
In any space right now around the globe where do you see wise ?
Yes, me too about parsons I m with you
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Ok you got me there I will add crowd is usually wise over time and not often in the short time span.
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Nop, it wasn’t at all, it’s not my interest
I m amazingly tired saying before all this begins that they are cometting a very bad decision
People don’t know about tactics and strategy, it seems to me some boys wants play and went a playground to do so…
For now, I m very very said to be right
What did guardian achieved, division!
Perfect 
thanks body
I really want this project to strive but it need better strategy and tactics, which it’s lacking now
Absolutely. I am somewhat surprised it played out this way but it is human nature after all as Rossi is discussing and we need to prevent that from happening on a big scale in the treasury system. I have some ideas on this but not ready to share and it will be my interest and my friend and collegues interest and our work.
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I was saying exactly that! Many times and many people maybe are tired from my posts back then ( and maybe now )
I m pragmatic and know people, the equation for me was clear from the beginning
Actually I wrote a document marking some particularities of this situation as results ( I do this kind of analysis for me to keep my mind sharp )
Not good for cardano nor for the community nor for the guardians
As my results are amazingly depressing, I judged right not disclose
A hint: the guardians would split to many spinoff groups that only would add more confusion
All the dinâmica of this situation are very worrying
When you have something great achieved by this group please let me know
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Nice, that’s good to have ideas in this subject
Amazingly difficult!
People need to learn more and when they reached what they think is their top level knowledge then start again and believe you know nothing
I m very depressed about the quality of thought, reasoning … anyway this is somehow beautiful as it reflect interesting behaviour of humans
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I will give it everything I got and all I am. It is that important to me as it could create a better world for my kids. But ok enough self pampering I will talk again if I have something to contribute.
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No man, you should!
You should love trust and believe in yourself, because you are the only one that can push where no longer exist any body to help you push…
All those people that say a project is important for them they won’t succeed because they are light!
if you really want it this idea to succeed, should be as a obsession, something that you couldn’t breath without thinking on it, an idea ( if it’s great ) it consumes you but once you succeed there is no other thing that could match this fulfilliment
The big achievements were always this way
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I am sorry Markus Gufler, but after reading this again I felt like I can’t let one more thing silent.
When Mr. Parsons was still in position and the vote regarding whether we should setup a staking pool in the future was standing at 7-0 (see picture copied above) you officially announced your leave from the Guaridans group because as you said you were expecting a marathon and disagree with a non-profit Guardians Group.
Once Parsons resigned a day or two after, suddenly you were back with full power fighting the poll, which was standing at 7-0 claiming that would the Guardians become a non profit organization having revenue from a staking pool they would completeley loose their independence.
You mentioned later that you plan to setup a private staking pool showing on a live webcam the electricity usage of the Proof of Stake protocol (I do like the idea by the way), which would have obviously created a conflict of interest for you having the Guardians running their staking pool as well.