Cardano’s Area51 and StackExchange Reputation


#1

Hi Guys
As you may have noted, Cardano is attempting to take the next step in StackExchange’s Area51 to reach the beta phase. https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/118211/cardano
This is not as easy as the previous “please place a click” steps were, because of this commitment
phase has 3 challenging criteria’s.

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As you can see this phase has (only) reached 24% because it’s the minimum score of the three criterias.

Criteria 1:
reach at least 200 committers => we need another ~80 users.

Criteria 2:
up to now only 24 of at least 100 committers fulfil this criterion. So we need another 76 committers with at least 200 reputation points on any StackExchange portal. The most known is probably StackOverflow where developers can find ask and get almost any answer. But there are many more and not only for developer and internet experts: https://stackexchange.com/sites

Criteria 3:
all committers together must show some recent activity on all other Stack-portals

IMHO criteria 3 will be reached as soon as we solve the most challenging one: criteria 2

If you create a new login on StackOverflow you will earn your first reputation point.
This site shows more information on how and how much reputation points you can earn. https://stackoverflow.com/tour

This is not that easy as it looks like because this system and community is very restrictive and aggressively moderating any attempt to “just collect some reputation points”. It aims to have very high quality answers to all kind of questions, without many duplicates. And a very lot is already asked and answered.

Example:
I tried to answer to one of Ruslan’s questions (he posted some years ago)


by pointing him to another answer


this attempt was commented and then blocked between minutes by two other guys because I didn’t flag it but only wrote a comment.
The problem is: as long as you don’t have earned at least 15 points it’s not possible to “simply” flag a question as a duplicate to another question/answer. So when you are a new user you first have to contribute with some real answers. One accepted answer will bring you +10 points. You need 200 points to move Cardanos commitment phase from 24 to 25%

Looking around a little bit I found something unanswered where I could easily contribute my knowledge:


and so I earned my first 10 points.

So, what’s all this about?
IMHO simply asking for some commitment clicks seems not enough to me to reach the next step (beta site) in 2018.
It looks like User “TeeJay” proposed this site (https://area51.stackexchange.com/users/190756/teejay) and his user description is “tech enthusiast on a learning curve. Working with IOHK to support global marketing, awareness and delivery of Cardano” So it looks more like a promotion idea and not a from-for-developers thing.
Other crypto projects like IOTA and Stellar are already at beta level and see there how difficult it will become without real developer interests and contribution: https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/110603/iota

IMHO it’s not simply done by

First of all, we would need some attention pointed to this criteria 2. It’s not enough to reach 200 (newbie) committers!
And this means we need some people with existing reputation (where, how, why, …?) or at the very least invite people to collect reputation on SE sites.

I also wonder if one some the developer guru’s at IOHK (I believe they have hired Superman right?) have some reputation or some DEV colleagues who could jump in?

Please don’t get me wrong: I’m only in favour of either doing something neat or letting stay at all. (at least until the right time comes)

(Feel free to eat all grammar and spelling errors)


#2

Do we need stackexchange? This forum seems ok.

I certainly wouldn’t try to push this, if it happens it happens.

In some ways it would better for them not to get it, if devs continue to use this forum, there will be more traffic and therefore higher SEO for this site. If all the devs move to stackexchange, then the flow goes over there.


#3

Thank you for this thought. Indeed it’s what I meant with

I’m pretty sure that it wouldn’t just happen, even if they continue to invite people to commit without giving a slightly deeper insight about the effective requirements.

I commited but it doesn’t really help because I - like many others - have not enough reputation there. As long as it grows by +1% each week from that few commiters with the mattering SE reputation, it will take ~1-2 years to reach beta phase, where then the challenges are another step higher.
In this case, it would become a very long ongoing show on how to NOT achieve a goal.


#4

getting a spot on stack exchange benefits stack exchange.


#5

So you mean we shouldn’t?
I have no opinion on this but just seen today that it was also mentioned at https://testnet.iohkdev.io/goguen/testnet/resources/support-and-help/ (second paragraph)


#6

ok. well if IOHK want it, then I hope they get it.