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Hey Rick, unfortunately what you’re asking for doesn’t exist on Discourse. It would make conversations confusing if you can’t see every message in a thread. As a platform created to foster engaging discussions, muting specific users goes against that.
So what we would find out in the end that almost everyone from the Community Management Team, possibly all Ambassadors and exGuardians saw that toxic thread posted by a fake account. Keep the logs then.
None felt like acting and thought it´s ok to have such sh*t on the Cardano Forum.
Then once 8 hours later as @RobJF accidently uncovered himself by a silly mistake suddenly the post became very inappropriate (for you) and had to be removed immediately, leaving no traces behind and no access for proof in the thread to the ones being attacked.
Speaking about flagging post inappropirate, when I did this on another anonymous users, @deepau ´s toxic comment and series of personal attacks (check out his activity history) in the past, NOTHING happened. You watched him constantly bully me.
Sure, good job everyone! Then this is the kind of example we are setting here for the future Cardano Community. Double Standards. Closed Group with centralized power sometimes using it for their personal interest.
There is only one Guy with strong integrity who deserves all the respect, it´s @SeanAlimov who felt this dirt doesn´t belong here and changed the subject.
I am out of this comedy show in this thread, it´s not a drama as you like to call it.
What you’re saying is very accusing, while in reality, moderation is done in real time where we can’t commit to the same response time on every flagged posts. What happened was purely coincidental and Markus, the moderator, acted on it when he came online and dealt with the flag.
As for your other comment, I see one of his posts which you flagged and it was reviewed by a moderator. If you would us to look into it, I can. As mentioned before, moderation is done as a team. Meaning everyone does not see every flag post, that would not make sense for efficiency sake.
I am not trying to be accusing, that´s why I asked you to disclose the logs to have clarity. But understood it won´t happen.
On double standards. I flag a post as inappropriate and it’s closed after 7 days without any resolution or notification to me. Your Ambassador’s post was set to inappropriate and resolved in minutes.
Maki, can you please tell me who reviewed my flagged post and what was the resolution?
If someone troll, keep with your life and ignore it
Is just ego …
This days the human sprit, consciousness is disturb by unwanted comment, it’s crazy how actally fragile are people nowadays.
Just whining and this one those the other did that … childish behaviour
My philosophy is like
Me : the sky is blue
Other person : no, it’s green
Me : common ?!
Other person : still green to me
Me : ok green it is
The thing is, it’s not what people could may think about us, is what it define us … it’s the value as humans that we hold inside and that can’t be changed by trolls comments behaviour of everybody
You should elevate yourself to this special place in which people could coexist no matter what we believe in we have something in common Cardano yet each side pulling hard to their side and is just sad
We now know Sebastian flagged this only after ROB revealed himself as a troll and then the same hour Andy removed the thread (as in the picture of Maki.mukai we see it was flagged after 21h then resolved after 21H) The thread had stood for a long time with no action and then within the hour rob revealed himself the thread is removed. What a coincidence ! Is this what this forum has turned into?
Yup. Even though the original post in question was in poor taste, there’s a reason why it was written. There must be something about the person it was written about that makes others act the way they do in response.
Rather than trying to have everyone else change around you, sometimes it’s best to engage in a little introspection.
This thing looks so ugly from the outside, but it has a long, deep & very personal history.
It’s beyond an unknow troll pissing you off once or twice. It’s now more then a month of insults & toxicity from the same group, where yesterday it was just the last drop in the glass.
I apologize to anyone from the Community who reads this unaware of the entire boring context.
Without that it does look childish, whining and pathetic.
Actually it is the other way around and it is very sad. Berchino did most of the work and got a change in Cardano Foundation. Now they are discarding him and discrediting him, the thread that got removed is only one among many such occasions. That is objective truth as he clearly showed by mistake he was the troll who attacked on watchdogs. So this is not made up things. Thing is it is a loosing fight and truth always finds a way. And it is sad if any critical voice will be pushed out of these forums as I had a very serious discussion on governance DSL and anyone with some education or knowledge of the field feel free to review what I wrote there as I know it will stand the test of time and is a solid contribution to the discussion in the field.
What makes you so sure it isn’t a coincidence ? Just ask Sebastian.
Maybe he will tell the truth… Maybe you wont believe him… I don’t know…
What I do know is that the last topic and this topic as well, don’t add anything positive to the Cardano community.
Maybe you guys could try and sort it out in private? Or maybe not sort it out at all. But I think it’s in everyone’s best to stop this mud throwing in public. To be fair, I think it’s better to delete this topic as well.
I agree this should have been sorted out in private long time ago. But it never did. And they keep attacking and discrediting. This is not the first time this happens. The troll in the first thread who by mistake revealed himself as Rob still has his thread criticizing the guardians - nothing whatsoever happened to that thread -, while the thread where the other party explained themselves is locked. Is this fair and balanced? Add on top of this many of the other group are in positions for ambassadors and one of them is revealed as having directly tried to attack Cardano watchdogs. So excuse me for asking if this is a coincidence. I am not saying all the ambassadors are rotten far from it but when you have a dispute between two groups perhaps - just perhaps you should be careful any such ambassadors focused on forwarding Cardano instead of attacking the other group? Does that not make sense? It sure does for me. None of the questions we have asked after the CF change have been answered. We have discussed how the community could be part of CF with so far no response. We have asked many questions regarding the ambassador program in this thread and so far no real clarity. It is ironic that many of the former guardians are also proposed as ambassadors and now one of them is found out to be directly related to slander on Cardano watchdogs. So again excuse me for asking what a coincidence.
What good does it make to have replaced Parsons if what is left is unable to provide transparency and unable to provide a balanced discussion where different viewpoints can be discussed. It does not help to have the best and most scientific rigor on the cryptocurrency itself if the community cannot upheld minimum standards.
When serious governance issues arrive in the future about the roads the users of Cardano should take you would have been glad that there have been discussions on this in the past. And if this becomes a place only for the agreeable people then we will have lost something.
Here we have a clear evidence a proposed ambassador used a fake user and wrote slander on watchdogs. And what are the actions of the moderators? To question Bertalan. To question watchdogs. Next move will be some of us will be banned I predict. How about an apology ? How about looking into ambassadors to make sure this does not happen again?
