Daedalus sync

I’m attempting to install the Daedalus wallet on a Windows 10 laptop, it’s been syncing for 24hrs and getting exponentially slower as it progresses. Overnight it progressed about .5%

I’m probably going to can this to be honest but it doesn’t give me much faith in the technology design if already we’re seeing such massive bottlenecks, future growth only suggests bigger issues. Where is this going in the respect of scalability and sustainability…

Decentralisation seems a bit of a flawed concept if you’re going to decentralise everything multiple times, am i missing something here?

Many thanks,

Ralph.

Hi!

Daedalus wallet right now only connects to a very limited number of sync servers… true p2p network discovery coming soon… till that you can extend the wallet topology manually:

Have you checked out the types of wallets, comparison/reasons to have those types and the options you would have?

Hi,

Yes aware of Yoroi and Adalite, I guess there’s two things here, firstly as a potential investor I’m questioning sustainability in terms of Blockchain distribution/syncing to Nodes, if/when the network grows and the block chain becomes Terrabytes how on earth will that work…

As far as the wallet goes I’d chosen Daedalus because firstly it’s NOT browser based and secondly it was created by Cadarno so seemed a natural fit and instilled some trust.

I gather Yoroi is browser based but is also created by Cardano?

This area of wallet offerings seems a little ill thought out for such a fundamental element, for me I’d just like an application based wallet that I can hardware secure with my Nano ledger, that’s simple to use, fast, secure and robust, the unfortunate thing is that the current options may put people off investing.

As a point of interest I don’t believe I have a server issue with my download, it is just literally getting slower and slower as it progresses, no network traffic just 100% disk access for hours on end with the occasional .01% increase in progress followed by a period of confirmation…

Many thanks,

Ralph.

Extension is not the same as web browser based wallets. There is a lot of misconception around on what the wallets security mean, and unfortunately I have to say that it’s also due to some marketing aspects.

It is created by IOG, Cardano is a protocol. On the other hand, Yoroi is developed by Emurgo - they’re both official wallets created by federation entities, who work closely together.

I am not sure if you’ve used and checked the second option yet , an average user - in my eyes - does not need to run a full node wallet, and you certainly dont have to based on your post.

Running a full node (a user choice) means some responsibilities and expectation management. You will not be having to wait for that sync time once initial sync has completed (also, your speed sounds lower and might have to do with initial latency to trusted peers).

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At present default presets links your deadalus with a specific node in the network (too busy). You can find the topology.yaml in the program folder and manually update it to include other nodes. Syncing time greatly reduced.

Many thanks for the response, sorry for my misuse of terminology but you get the jist…

You’re spot on I don’t need to run a full node, it just seemed to be the best option at the time, I think I have been persuaded otherwise now.

So my experience aside what is the long term viability of the distributed Blockchain when it becomes far larger than it is now?

I am attempting to download Daedalus on a new MacBook Air laptop with over 250 gig of ram. Why am I only at 73% after five days someone please help computer illiterate people like myself. If Cortana wants to get out to the masses they better make this easier, because this is absolutely ridiculous. help please ? I put in my 24 word phrase and trying to recover the wallet to no avail. Is there any other option?

Don’t use Daedalus!

Yes, it can take several days to sync easily. And it eats up an awful amount of disk space. If you don’t have a real good reason to use it, just use another, non-full-node wallet app.

More or less official links to them can be found on https://developers.cardano.org/showcase/?tags=wallet. From the ones given there, I’d recommend Eternl, Typhon, or Lace. (Nami can be problematic when importing a wallet from Daedalus since it only recognises the first address, while Daedalus uses new receive and change addresses for every transaction.)

You can just import your 24 word seed phrase. It will open exactly the same wallet/account with all of your funds and stake pool delegation. There’s no need to move anything. You will just control exactly the same wallet with a different software.

yes rjp,daedalus i had from 2017/18 till feb 2024 first it was fine to work with till 2019 or so after that it went on using too much ram/memory because of network went soo big i think,iohk has left also daedalus bit i feel no great updates that made the thing light it went only from thin to a fat heavy beast that can not run on 8ram or a small memory anymore soo the best now just remove it and go for light like hepta says…i went again for a product that is build by iohk thats LACE !!! its working nice for me no sync click and gooo!!!