I am using Daedalus 7.1.0 and have a my ADA staked. I want to transfer the ADA to a 3rd party store, but I can’t see any way to undelegate. An internet search only shows up how do things before version 5.
Any help appreciated
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If i remember correctly, Daedalus doesnt have a unstake function.
But you can send all your funds without undelegate your funds.
In case you want to get back your 2 ADA which you had to use as a deposit, you would have to restore your funds in a litewallet like Typhon and unstake there.
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Yep, implementing unstaking has been an open issue with Daedalus for four years(!):
https://github.com/input-output-hk/daedalus/issues/2367
And please, do migrate to a light wallet app and unstake from there! (Also has a lot of other benefits like less resource and time waste.)
The deposit is there for a reason! It is meant to incentivise properly deregistering unused stakes because they take up space in every active node and cause computation costs on every epoch boundary for tiny Lovelace amounts of rewards.
Sure, it’s not that significant per single wallet/account, but counteracting the rationale for the deposit by saying “Ah, it’s only 2 ADA! Forget it!” is also kind of strange.
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Thanks to both. I thought that was the case, but I couldn’t find any confirmation. So what is the recommended lite wallet? Not heard about Typhon.
I will undelegate … makes sense for the neywork as a whole - just need to find the best (read easiest to use) lite wallet as it is to make it easy for my wife.
I am also looking at sorting out a friend in his 70s who needs to move his account to a lite wallet a she can no longer run Daedalus as his hardware is not up to snuff so again easy to use would be a great boon.
Ideally, easy to install in Linux would be good too.
Thx for the quick response
You can choose any from https://cardano.org/what-is-ada/#wallets.
I’d recommend Eternl, @Zyroxa usually recommends Typhon, Lace is good if you want open source and want to have one developed by one of the founding entities of Cardano (it is developed by IOG).
You can also test multiple, use them in parallel, and look which one you can best explain to your friend.
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Thanks. Will go test them all.
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Well, this is disappointing.
Lace falls at the first hurdle - only supports Chrome. Given Chrome’s (google/alphabet’s) reintroduction of fingerprinting etc I find that a real issue.
Typhon also only supports Chrome based browsers, so again non-starter
Vespr is another Chromium only based solution
Eternl likewise.
That leaves Yori as the only option supporting firefox (and presumably firefox based) browers.
Am I missing something?
Is there anything that supports Tor for example?
You can try other Chromium-based browsers – Chromium, Brave, Opera, Edge, Vivaldi, … – they should all be mostly compatible. It doesn’t have to be Google Chrome itself.
For Eternl, I know that they said that Mozilla wanted them to hand over complete source code of the extension which was a no-go for them. For the other wallet apps, I can only speculate that maybe, it’s not worth it to invest scarce developer resources in a browser that (maybe sadly) has a very small user base left … and also has gotten some privacy backlash lately.
The web app versions (not extensions) of at least Eternl and Typhon work in Firefox. What you lose with that is the connection from dApps in other tabs. You only have the ones in Eternl’s integrated dApp browser then.
The mobile apps of Eternl, Vespr, Yoroi could also be an alternative. (Under the hood, they probably use WebViews. Don’t know how much they have the same privacy problems as Chrome proper or if it depends on the flavour of Android you run. If that is an important topic for you, you maybe know more about it.)
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You can find most answer in FAQ
Yes, I know what you mean …
I have tried most of the Chrome alternatives, gave up on Brave, it just had too many bug issues - but that was about 5 years ago so maybe it is worth a revisit. Liked their philosophy though.
I am presently looking at Librewolf which is privacy focussed and strips out all the issues associated with firefox (apparently), but Librewolf also has some serious issues which need addressing which prevent full migration. Keyboard operations are seriously broken in certain scenarios. The result is I have a mix of browsers at my disposal in ever decreasing levels of privacy from Tor to Edge/Chrome.
I’ll give the web app versions ago.
Thanks for the update.
Went through all that last night for all the options … the FAQs only addressed some of my first line Qs, but I will just go have a play. Usually the best option for figuring out what is best anyway. Just needed pointing in the right direction.
Thank you to everyone who has responded. It has been a big help.
I tend to be very mistrustful of anything web based when it come to crypto, so knowing that the community is confident in the options mentioned is a huge plus.
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Just get a hardware wallet and you dont have to trust anything web based. You only sign what you see on your hardware wallet and use the web application only as a user interface.
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… but that isn’t an answer to privacy concerns regarding the browser.
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Personally, I gave up on Brave after reading about its creators policies.
Just using pure Chromium (on Linux) now (for the crypto stuff, main browser is Firefox out of the traditions of an old man). But I also chose to not care that much about the tracking/privacy stuff.
What FAQ are you even talking about?