Is Shelly being pushed back again?

Continuing the discussion from The future of the Guardians:

I have noticed on the roadmap in some sections percent complete rolling backwards

The guardians should investigate these constant delays and pushbacks, something’s not right

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How do we verify what’s being worked on and how much of it is actually completed? I see a loading bar, but that’s no proof, how can I verify it for myself?

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Hi Sean!
Charles has been very forthcoming with information on the status of development coming from IOHK and it could be very possible to get a reply to any questions you have by asking him through the Telegram general Chat https://t.me/CardanoGeneral
I am interested in what sections on the roadmap you are concerned about?

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The Cardano test net and the PARTNERSHIP WITH METAPS PLUS were announced complete on Reddit but it’s not reflected on the roadmap. A while ago :ada: price tracker was removed from the roadmap, which is self explanatory. My main concern is Shelly, in Q1 2019 it will be a year that it has been pushed back. I’ve been here this whole time, accumulating more :ada:. Excuses and delays have a price, lose of confidence. My source of concern is that Shelly might be pushed back further. When :iohk: team…Charles Hoskinson says Q1, I expect it to be Q1. Good faith will only get you so far and it needs to be earned. The goal is smart contracts, and it’s gonna be a long while if we can’t get through Shelly.

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I agree, many people have expressed this and personally it is not easy to sit back and wait for the developers to produce the product they promise.

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Thank you for the referral, Ill ask if there are plans to delay Shelly further.

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You do follow all the updates video’s & what not? The AMA’s have been insightful and the Cardano effect brings in much info also

Yes of course, Shelly Q1 that’s the message from Charles AMA’s that I’m focused on. I think further delay would warrant concern, don’t you?

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In case your reply is it takes time to do thing right, that’s not the issue here, doing things in the timely manner matters as well. Leading public on with unrealistic timelines is not acceptable. I’m on board as long as you’re honest with me, if Shelly takes another year is if fine by me if you’re up front about it.

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Yes, I think i have put myself out there promoting Cardano and felt burned a bit with the delays, I have readjusted my personal approach to “believe it when I see it” as applied to the timing, I still think the platform will deliver the tools they are working on, but when is now not something I can be sure of, I fully understand how the delays could be caused and have some understanding of the complicated process the developers bound themselves to which have attributed to the delays.

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This isn’t even the worst of it, with all the shenanigans with bitcoin, :ada: might loose half its current value further. Perhaps it’s not as bad as it seems, maybe I just needed to vent.

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It takes time to do things right! :wink:
Like yourself, good notification of any possible delays I appreciate, I think Charles has been relaying his complications through AMA’s and interviews, and reading in between the lines I would not be surprised if there was another delay.
Lets talk about the recent CF restructuring and how that plays out with the timing of Shelley, if the internal policy and function of the CF is completely screwed up and the articles of incorporation complicate the release of Shelley I would completely understand that it could affect the developers plan to release Shelley, although I do not expect this to be the case I am just saying I would understand it.

I need to let loose and vent too! I want this platform to be fully functioning now and not after the industry finds more stabilization and Cardano finds itself competing with other projects that have had a chance to take the projects vision and act on it before Cardano.

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Shelly was supposed to be released in Q3. I’m here from the beginning and I do not appreciate that time-wise things are not evaluated properly. Shelly already had 6-months pushback and I fear it won’t be finished at the end of Match (end of Q1).

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Please do not bullshit us about testnets, we want to get the exact date when Shelly is released, so we can begin staking. I’m a big believer in Cardano, but this has really shaken my belief in Cardano! I don’t care WHEN things are released, as long as the deadlines are kept. Don’t promise things to be finished and then deliver a testnet or push back the dates.

Please get somebody from IOHK to clearly state when Shelly will be released and FULLY functional!

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Please do, we don’t forget the previous promises and we don’t appreciate them being broken. Also, please get Sebastian to invite somebody from IOHK to speak on the weekly video podcasts about Shelly. And we want actual dates/progress, don’t care at which state they are, just actual real expectations that can be met without any further delays!

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I have not commented much on the value and price of ada lately but I will say that it is not as important for the platform as investors believe it to be right now, I hope not to push any of your investor buttons here,
How I look at it right now is the development is so very important that the price could end up at less than ICO price and the approach to bring the product to market should very well prove itself to reward hodlers in the future, I am sure I have no need go into the depth of what claims the developers can lay claim to, the financial institutions of the world are obviously beginning to use blockchain tech, most of it is privatized and getting patented to be a restricted process, this project is aligning itself to be direct competitors with more credibility that their academia approach in time will prove to lend it, shelley is very important for decentralizing it (obviously) but proving that a cross border decentralized solution can work to change the path of how the financial institutions of the world control wealth supply is an amazing endeavor and I think when it is realized yes there will be some sad investors that sold at a loss but the change in the world should outweigh those losses.
Should but do not quote me.

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Well here’s my dilemma, tomorrow around 2am I’ll get my paycheck and I want to know if I should buy :ada: with it right then and there and possibly loose half the value of the paid work I did for last two weeks or wait for bitcoin to crash further and actually double the :ada: I may get at 2am tomorrow. It is important the value and volatility of :ada: , it determines how much :ada: I’ll hold when things do pick up and I’ve got a goal of 1million.

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You do seem to be in a pickle :upside_down_face:
I saw you on telegram, I wonder if you will get a response.
As a trader I guess when things pick up means when the market picks up, yet for me things are in full swing right now, price is not reflected cause of btc but man it is hard for someone to stay informed and follow everything that is going on.
Just the Emurgo developments are amazing right now, the planning and evidence of the platform development is really taking shape.

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I bought ADA today.

Today is a good day.

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My personal experience in dealing with software and hardware development is it always takes twice as long as you originally think. So with that as a guide if they get Shelly live before 4th quarter 2019 they are ahead of schedule.

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As long as the end result is PERFECT!

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