Reward percentage so far [Poll] - Edited!

Hi guys, I’m staking for only 3 epochs. My average earnings, if it continues like this, will result in approximately 12% per year, which seems very good to me. I’d like to know what your yearly average has been. Since we haven’t closed a year yet, make a simple projection considering your average so far. It’s an anonymous poll. Thanks!

  • less than 6%
  • between 6% and 9%
  • between 9% and 12%
  • between 12% and 15%
  • more than 15%

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Ps: I started this poll in another post by requesting the monthly percentage. In response to requests, I changed it to annual. To those who had already voted, please vote again. I apologize.

I Elected to delegate to 2 pools that are run by people I know i can trust that have a strong history in our community and have demonstrated through their work for the rest of us that they are committed to ensuring this testnet creates an awesome mainnet, I couldn’t trust the random pools of people promising to do their best to have awesome uptime etc. I had to go with what I know to be true and without doubt, both pools have a tax higher than 6% between the two of those pools my Annual average would be 15.8%
I hope the rest of you realize some ADA rewards like I have before testing is over, its awesome to be a part of this after having been looking forward to it for a minute :slightly_smiling_face: :sunglasses:

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Nice! Thanks for sharing

The average seems to be over 12%. This is amazing.

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Greetings:

Is it taboo to ask which pools you’re staking with? I’m experiencing wallet issues but once I’m up and running I would love a better sense of which pools are performing best.

Thank you.

Reis

No question of the like is taboo, personally though I would not want to be responsible for you to place your stake where I have mine cause of advice from me mainly cause in these times ROI is not gauranteed and I would not want to be responsible in any way for someone else’s losses, I will say however that I trust active community members first and foremost and there are several members of the community running pools on the list on this page
https://adapools.org/dashboard/ambassadors
Also there are many pool operators not on the list that are also trusted community members that you can find through researching who is who and how they are contributing to our community and the testnet, knowing who a stake pool operator is allows me to rest assured that they have the best intention of keeping thier pool online and up to date, this is still testnet so most of the pools might not have information to who they are yet and relying on uptime stats and ROI is not nessasarily a bad way to make decision where to place your stake but with the network in testnet it would be wise to monitor your decision so if a pool goes down you can redelagate to another to cut your losses.
Hope you the best in your decision!
P.S.Twitter and telegram are both useful tools to get to know our community, as is here of course, welcome back!

Hi, How do I calculate my average?

For each epoch: (Rewards / staked ADA) * 100% * 365 = annualized return of this epoch
For all epochs: sum of epoch rewards divided by number of staked epochs = average annualized return

My original plan was to stake with CLIO1 because I admire the work of @werkof in creating a possibility to run a stake pool with extremely low power consumption. I like the fact that we don’t need high performance machines for Cardano, we don’t need expensive equipment, cooled data centers and triple secured power connections, everyone with some knowledge can run a simple pool, even if that means having a performance of 98% instead of 99.9%.

But CLIO1 was saturated very fast so I changed my mind and began pool hopping. It’s a testnet, IOHK wants to see me playing with it, I have time to do so, so let’s play. :wink:

I hope more people take this approach of playing around and maybe try to break something in the meantime cause its the only chance to without really hurting Cardano, there are some unknowns in the testnet that need to come to light so they can be fixed that I am interested in, the windows ITN wallet for one - where did that originate from and how can I break it?

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True! Good point

@reisbaron I’m delegating to LVLY. I just did a quick analysis of pools and chose one. By that time LVLY had about 75M ADAs, but after some epochs it got saturated (now it has more than 97M ADAs). Next time I’ll choose a smaller one

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@reisbaron… i m not a whale​:sob::sob:, delegated a few thousand first to cardanians (they are ambassador and write great articles and own the site adapool.org where you can find lotst of information about the scores of all the stakepools). After that i changed to the only dutch stake -i m dutch- i found, flowr pool, and at the moment it is kiwi. I choose conscientous for the smaller pools, and not located in the far east or usa, so it helps the decentralisation and future of Cardano. I just followed cardanians a few months, found flowr in google and kiwi on adapools.org. At the moment i choosed for them they had a very good ROI according adapools.org. At the moment my earnings on yearbasis is between 15-17%. It is a fantastic earningrate that i didn t expect before. But if one off these days there comes a new dutch pool, i will stake to them, despite i don t know their prestations.

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I’d like to see some official information about saturation point. Can anyone tell?

I was looking for this as well, but did not find any official information.

Unofficial bits:

Thank you @hivos . I don’t like that there is no clear official information on that. The more users know about the “rules”, the greater the chance of making good decisions, which would consequently be reflected in a more robust ecosystem.

It’s hard to believe that such an important release as Shelley came without clear communication with users about basic issues. It’s a very important aspect, I’d say trivial, and it’s missing = /

@maki.mukai @rickymac

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The answer is in the genesis block. The parameter is known as “k” and is set to 100.

If you run

jcli rest v0 settings get

you get:

block0Hash: 8e4d2a343f3dcf9330ad9035b3e8d168e6728904262f2c434a4f8f934ec7b676
block0Time: "2019-12-13T19:13:37+00:00"
...
  poolParticipationCapping:
    - 100
    - 100
...

and you can see that configuration right from the ITN itself, so if you know where to look, it’s there. It’s just hard to find for regular users. I guess that’s the way of testnet.

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Thank you @hivos! Do you know what the dynamics will look like to set the value of k in mainnet? For example:

  • How often will they update this value?
  • Who will be responsible for this (thinking from the perspective of decentralization)?