Lost ada coin situation [solved, coins sent to wrong address]

[kimjungin]

A few days ago, I posted e-mails about the evaporation of the ada coin several times. Is there no solution?
Where the hell did he disappear?

This is a wallet transaction screen.

• 50.171070
  ADA Transaction, 06:54:02 PM
  HIGH

From addresses
DdzFFzCqrhskawK8WWC2tVAGZhBcrv9wVn93SL1rk4senPB9UG4KGizaeK9RCswFpYrZxGVieQE1J9vuWYwqzQqoa78k5c8q8QmZFwgi

To addresses
DdzFFzCqrhtAagGfKzFFjPoaVoxjauS9WFZM2wMyccQxqgMvq8WsPypB11sncUZtZyv6Jas41NHjzt3cQwVHpaRktVf3Drt1feipgCmM
DdzFFzCqrhsvV5NGZvyfHDrnKXswdEY1JahPe955EVYz6587mG2LP6xfVU5DsPmzqSN5TVpZgiHgWfs4LP2NuCk5YZ2QN7LgNq8io9jY

Transaction approval level
High.13002 confirmations

Transaction ID
e82fae8d9cad1e0f34f0e7f292c78241af0338e2baa6cf4f685569824d9c637c

Check the https://adatracker.com/ site.

Transaction
e82fae8d9cad1e0f34f0e7f292c78241af0338e2baa6cf4f685569824d9c637c
27 May 2018 09:54:11

Output : 19,554.657860 ADA
Fees : 0.171070 ADA
Epoch 49 / Slot 2188
Block Hash : 8 bf29… fcff 60
Block Height : 1060476
Block Time Affected : 27 May 2018 09:54:11

Inputs
Dd zF …
19,554.828930 ADA

Outputs
Dd zF … 8 jY
50.000000 ADA
Dd zF … ipgCo. mM
19,504.657860 ADA

This is how you can not send 50 coins to your wallet.

Attached is the reference material.
Here is the wallet status of the place you sent.

Here’s your wallet status where you received it.

From the place I sent, there were 4 transactions, 3 of them were sent and received 1.
From where you receive it, it is confirmed that there are three transactions.

Please tell me how to recover the lost coin.
I’m so disappointed that I’m angry.

[vantuz-subhuman]

@kimjungin

From addresses
Dd zF Fz Cqrhskaw aw WW rh AG tV Zh Bc rv n wV 93 sk 9 SL 4 1 rk se 9 4 UG 9 Fp Yr wg ZF Zx qo ie GV 5 a c 1 9 Qm J q 78 vu zQ QE K I K wq WY

To addresses
Dd zF Fz Cqrh rh ag FF jP oa xj au S Vo xq gM cQ ZM wM vq WF 8 Ws 9 2 11 Py sn cU pB Ja yc ip Zt 6 Zy 41 fe v 1 cQ NH mM jz gC wV Dr t 3 t s Hp Dd tA Kz Gf 3 aR Vf kt
Dd zF Cq rhrhrhsv sv NG Zveadwersw sw Ja dE Y5 EV Yz65 mG2 LP HD Pm VU zq pZ jY s Lg gi Nq Hg Fz Wf yf SN V Ck

Hello. I don’t know what you are trying to post, but these are not valid addresses, even if you remove all the spaces. In the Daedalus program on the “Transactions” screen, you may use “right click” and “Copy” function to copy the whole address:

[kimjungin]

Sorry
I changed my address.
Check it again.

[vantuz-subhuman]

@kimjungin

From the place I sent, there were 4 transactions, 3 of them were sent and received 1.
From where you receive it, it is confirmed that there are three transactions.

1. From the sending address - there’re only 2 transactions, not 4. Here’s the address, and it shows 2 transactions: https://adatracker.com/address/DdzFFzCqrhskawK8WWC2tVAGZhBcrv9wVn93SL1rk4senPB9UG4KGizaeK9RCswFpYrZxGVieQE1J9vuWYwqzQqoa78k5c8q8QmZFwgi

2. What is the address of your second wallet (second screenshot)? Where did you want to send 50 coins?

[kimjungin]

The first screen shot shows that I had 4 transactions in my wallet and sent 3 of them and 1 of them.
The second screen shot is that I received it twice out of three times in my wallet and it was sent to the wallet on the first screen.
If you look at the difference between the transmission time of the first and second screen shot, you’ll understand.
So, only 50 coins from the second one were lost.
Do you understand?

[kimjungin]

Check the input quantity and output quantity of the transaction address.
The wallet I received is my second screen shot.
So it’s missing. 50 coins

[vantuz-subhuman]

@kimjungin

If you look at the difference between the transmission time of the first and second screen shot, you’ll understand.

Ok, @kimjungin, in the Daedalus - there’s “Receive” tab with a list of all addresses. Can you please create screenshots of this screen for both your wallets: the one you sent 50 coins from AND the one you sent 50 coins to . Please, try to make screenshots so that ALL addresses are visible. It will help trying to resolve this.

Like this:

[kimjungin]

Receive screenshot of the wallet sent.

Receive screenshot of the wallet received.

[vantuz-subhuman]

Ok, now @kimjungin, please, look carefully:

1. This is the transaction where you’ve sent 50 coins: https://adatracker.com/tx/e82fae8d9cad1e0f34f0e7f292c78241af0338e2baa6cf4f685569824d9c637c

2. You can see there, that source address (DdzFFzCqrhskawK8WWC2tVAGZhBcrv9wVn93SL1rk4senPB9UG4KGizaeK9RCswFpYrZxGVieQE1J9vuWYwqzQqoa78k5c8q8QmZFwgi) IS in the list of addresses of your sending wallet:

3. Then you can also see that the address where the change (19,504.65786 ADA) went is also in the list of addresses of your sending wallet. This means that the change from transaction was sent back to your wallet. This is ok and expected.

4. Now, that’s the interesting part. You can see that address where you have sent 50 coins (DdzFFzCqrhsvV5NGZvyfHDrnKXswdEY1JahPe955EVYz6587mG2LP6xfVU5DsPmzqSN5TVpZgiHgWfs4LP2NuCk5YZ2QN7LgNq8io9jY) is NOT in the list of addresses of receiving wallet:

You can carefully check the list of available addresses and see that there’s no address ending with "...N7LgNq8io9jY".

This means that you have sent 50 coins to a wrong address that is not from this wallet. Check it carefully. Do you have any other wallet? Maybe you copied address from one of them by mistake?

In any way - your receiving wallet could not possibly see these 50 coins, cuz they are sent not to this wallet, but to some other wallet.

[kimjungin]

Thank you very much for your sincere reply.
But that’s not the answer I want.
You said it was the wrong address, but I copied it from the Daedalus wallet itself, and I can’t understand it.
There are two addresses on the receiving screen of the wallet where you need to receive them, and the bottom address is when you send the first one.

And the last dog is the address that you sent in the opposite direction.

The question is, obviously, there are four addresses on this one.

Why are there only two addresses in the other wallet?

So, 50 coin addresses disappeared.
I just don’t understand the wrong address.
I sent you a copy of the address I gave you from Daedalus wallet, so isn’t it a system defect of my wallet?
Please restore the lost coin or come up with a solution again.

If you are not a Daedalus technical support team, leave a different contact number.

[vantuz-subhuman]

@kimjungin

Why are there only two addresses in the other wallet?

New address appears only in two cases - if you request it manually by clicking the “Generate new address” button, or when you send some coins - then new address is created automatically in order to receive the change.

Your second wallet has only two generated addresses because it has only 1 outgoing transaction, which is exactly pictured on your screenshot:

There was only one address - https://adatracker.com/address/DdzFFzCqrhsn4srBySm2UZnNjxbCvfu7oCrAzpTJ8ZC9pGKbSrXG3vwkfGQAGiaSvoQmZSQ2eVBZiTJaKT5yxQevaQfhAC1K9Wf6nbGJ

And this address shows two transactions of 1 ADA each, received which is also seen on your screenshot. Then you have sent coins FROM your second wallet (1.17 ADA) - and this created second address.

Neither of these two addresses is the one where you have sent 50 coins. So you just have used wrong address. This is not a Daedalus defect - this is how it works and everything makes sense. You just copied some wrong address and sent 50 coins in there. I am sorry if this is disappointing, but this is how this technology works - you alway have to double check all used addresses and keys. Maybe you have copied valid address from your second wallet, but then also copied some other address and forgot about it when sending 50 coins? This is totally possible.

But neither of your wallet have this address, and you have sent coins there: https://adatracker.com/address/DdzFFzCqrhsvV5NGZvyfHDrnKXswdEY1JahPe955EVYz6587mG2LP6xfVU5DsPmzqSN5TVpZgiHgWfs4LP2NuCk5YZ2QN7LgNq8io9jY

@kimjungin

Please restore the lost coin or come up with a solution again.

I am sorry but in the blockchain coins may only be restored by an owner of the wallet. It seems that you are not the owner of the wallet with this address (https://adatracker.com/address/DdzFFzCqrhsvV5NGZvyfHDrnKXswdEY1JahPe955EVYz6587mG2LP6xfVU5DsPmzqSN5TVpZgiHgWfs4LP2NuCk5YZ2QN7LgNq8io9jY), which means that you have sent your coins to someone else’s wallet by mistake. Only owner of this wallet may return you your coins.

Please, check out all your other wallet, or what addresses could you also copy by mistake. Maybe it’s a wallet of someone you know, or one of your own spare wallets.

@kimjungin

If you are not a Daedalus technical support team, leave a different contact number.

You can try using “Email support” button at the bottom of this page: https://daedaluswallet.io/faq/ in order to contact official Daedalus support. And you also can send them link to this discussion, so they will better understand what is the matter.

You have the right to try and ask anyone else for help, but I can sincerely tell you that this is not a wallet issue. In the blockchain world people constantly make mistakes and send money to wrong addresses, or lose their keys. I can only congratulate you that only 50 coins and not the 19 thousand coins got lost. This is a small price to pay for a lesson - everyone should be extra careful when dealing with blockchain technology. Things are not reversible here: if you make a mistake - it stays that way.

Unfortunately, I will not be able to provide any more help to you on this issue. Hope you find an answer that will satisfy you and bring peace to your mind. Good luck!

[kimjungin]

정성스런 답변에 또 한번 감사드립니다.
하지만 아직도 내가 원하는 답변을 듣지 못했다.
자꾸 잘못된 주소라고 하는데, 그럼왜 그런 잘못된 주소를 줬는가?
복사개념이 클립 보드로 복사되는건데 전체적 주소중 한두개 주소가 바뀌는 경우는 없지않는가?
대체 내가 뭘 실수 했는지 화가난다.
그리고 50개의 코인을 분실한 교훈으로 삼으라고?
이게 말이 되는소리인가?
그정도로 잃을걸 고맙게 생각 하라고?

나는 이런 문제를 해결 해주지 못한다면 sns에 카르다노 소유자분들께 다이달로스 지갑에 대한 결함을
공개하겠다.
고객의 소량의 코인을 소중히 여겨야하는데
그런경우 허다하니 교훈으로 삼으라니!!

카르다노 재단 한국직원분과 연락을 취하고 싶다.

[_ilap]

@kimjungin

정성스런 답변에 또 한번 감사드립니다.
하지만 아직도 내가 원하는 답변을 듣지 못했다.
자꾸 잘못된 주소라고 하는데, 그럼왜 그런 잘못된 주소를 줬는가?
복사개념이 클립 보드로 복사되는건데 전체적 주소중 한두개 주소가 바뀌는 경우는 없지않는가?
대체 내가 뭘 실수 했는지 화가난다.
그리고 50개의 코인을 분실한 교훈으로 삼으라고?
이게 말이 되는소리인가?
그정도로 잃을걸 고맙게 생각 하라고?

나는 이런 문제를 해결 해주지 못한다면 sns에 카르다노 소유자분들께 다이달로스 지갑에 대한 결함을
공개하겠다.
고객의 소량의 코인을 소중히 여겨야하는데
그런경우 허다하니 교훈으로 삼으라니!!

카르다노 재단 한국직원분과 연락을 취하고 싶다.

To be clear, DO NOT BLAME ANYBODY, BUT ONLY YOURSELF. If you cannot accept it then f*ck off.

[vantuz-subhuman]

@kimjungin

자꾸 잘못된 주소라고 하는데, 그럼왜 그런 잘못된 주소를 줬는가?
복사개념이 클립 보드로 복사되는건데 전체적 주소중 한두개 주소가 바뀌는 경우는 없지않는가?

Daedalus did not copied you a wrong address. You copied wrong address from somewhere else.

@kimjungin

대체 내가 뭘 실수 했는지 화가난다.

You copied wrong address. You should be angry at yourself.

@kimjungin

그리고 50개의 코인을 분실한 교훈으로 삼으라고?
이게 말이 되는소리인가?

You have lost 50 ADA coins because of your mistake. It’s ~ $10.
Some people make mistakes and lose thousands of dollars.

You can think that you have payed $10 for a remainder of always being extra aware of everything. Or you can chose to blame anyone else but yourself.

@kimjungin

나는 이런 문제를 해결 해주지 못한다면 sns에 카르다노 소유자분들께 다이달로스 지갑에 대한 결함을
공개하겠다.
고객의 소량의 코인을 소중히 여겨야하는데
그런경우 허다하니 교훈으로 삼으라니!!

There’s no problem like this in Daedalus.

@kimjungin

카르다노 재단 한국직원분과 연락을 취하고 싶다.

I hope you do understand that neither “Cardano Foundation” nor “IOHK” are responsible for your coins and transactions. They are producers of free software that allows people to exchange value. Once you download and setup this software - it solely your responsibility to use it accurately and responsibly. I think it might be more comfortable and peaceful for you to use traditional banking\financial services where organisations sell you the right to make mistakes.

You may try to contact @YeJi.Kim

[kimjungin]

ㅎ 정확하고 책임감있게 사용하라고? 대체 그것이 무엇인지 모르겠다. 지갑자체에서 하라는데로 하는게 정확하고 책임감있는거 아닌가? 잘못된주소를 어떻게 내 임의적으로 생성할수있는가? 어렵게 생각하지말고 쉽게 쉽게 생각좀 해보세요. 지갑에서 하라는데로 한게 내실수인가? 그리고 겨우 10달러라고 무시하는가?
수천,수만달러도 잃어버리는 사람도 많다고?
그게 카르다노의 대변할수있는 답변인가?
너무 성의없는 답변 아닌가?
웃음만 나온다.ㅎ