Hello, in January I decided to set up a pool, but I did not collect the necessary ADA to generate profits
I have decided to unregister the pool at epoch 336 through cntools.sh
I followed the steps and everything went ok.
in theory in epoch 338 they would give me back the 500 ADA, but this has not happened.
I have left the servers synchronized, but I have not received anything.
The pool was called: TENSE
The base address is: addr1qyrhm207wp9f68yr0c6l97qtny27jqdwyalr4sz602qduhad5qp48sa78z298y0llwt6309x38zlg02j6hgewp6zukkszu043l
thatās because the wallet is/was not delegated
so at the epoch transition, the ledger knows nothing about the stake key, because it has been previously de-registered, so the deposit, instead of going to the stake account, it has to go to the treasury. And it is lost forever and there is nothing we can do to help
the right order is:
create a de-registration certificate and submit to the network
wait till specified epoch and check for 500A (deposit) on stake account/address
if you received it withdraw the rewards
de-register the wallet
if it is necessary move the funds to another wallet.
Hello, thanks for the answer, I followed the steps from cntools.sh, it seems that when I unregistered the pool, I unregistered my wallet.
This means that I have lost my 500 ADA right?
And there is no way to get them back?
When the stake address has already been de-registered when a reward payout or a pool deposit refund is distributed, then the ADA goes back to the reserves (ie where future staking payouts come from).
Still around? You helped me a lot when setting up my node, now having some issues as i needed to de-register, cannot get my registration fee back. Please let me know if i can share this with you, Thanks!
I have a similar thread on this but still have time to fix it, I have my stake address āregisteredā still, but NOT delegated. Is delegation required or just registration (I.E the 2 ada deposit for registration?
The question was what is needed in order to receive the 500 ADA stake pool deposit back:
Does the reward stake address have to be registered? Almost certainly yes. Otherwise, the nodes, the ledger do not keep track of the balance on the stake address anymore and nothing can be paid to it. (So, the 2 ADA deposit for that registration can only be claimed back after the stake pool deposit has been paid back.)
Does the reward stake also have to be delegated to a pool, even to the pool that is going to be retired? I personally pretty surely do not think so, donāt see any reason why that rather complicated lookup should have been implemented in the reward payback mechanism.
But ā as always ā it is quite hard to find any definitive answer. Especially because this is a rather niche question: Registration and delegation are almost always done at exactly the same time. The question only came up because @Gentleman_Goat had accidentally already deregistered the stake key and has then just registered again up to now, but has not delegated to a/the pool, but first wanted to ask if that is really necessary.
I thought I was answering the question immediately above by @Gentleman_Goat .
In order to get your Stake Pool registration deposit back, the Stake Address still needs to be registered at the time the Stake Pool becomes deregistered (Ie at the end of epoch after which it was deregistered). If the Stake Address is no longer registered, I seem to remember that the deposit goes back to the treasury.
Pretty sure the stake address does not need to be delegated to receive the Stake Pool registration deposit back.
But not that important. Both essentially means: Reward stake key not registered on retirement is bad.
Ah, totally overlooked that one because itās already old. That also had another thread:
Also was about the 500 ADA pool deposit. This time with the problem that the only(?) .skey file seems to be for the wrong stake.
(Interestingly, exactly the example I found when trying to answer Gentleman_Goatās question on which stake the deposit comes back when reward and owner are different stake keys. Also not that many examples of that situation. Most often, both are just the same. Or at least the rewards stake key is one of the owners.)
I can confirm now since I got my 500 ada deposit that ādelegationā is NOT required as I never delegated to the pool, I just made sure the stake address was still registered is all. What is interesting is I got the 500 ada deposit back right away when the epic it was set to expire on occurred. So in case this happens to someone else we all have the answer now, I took the chance on it for science haha. (actually I was sick for past 4 days and couldnāt move so was forced to take a chance on it )
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