Ada in Infinito

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Infinito not let me transfer or withdraw

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@Alexd1985 - Need your help! I see that you help few other folks in identify/transfer ADA from Infinito wallet.
My problem is that I cannot see my ADA balance in my Infinito wallet (byron) though I can see my balance in cardanoscan.io. I have already sent an email to Infinito support but not sure if they will help?

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Check if you are able to restore the wallet in adalite.io

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No, Infinito did not use one of the standard ways to create a Byron wallet.

And they went out of business a while ago (https://www.infinitowallet.io/). So, no support anymore … and no sending from Infinito itself.

I could not find out how they derive from the seed phrase.

In https://forum.cardano.org/t/how-to-restore-my-ada-byron-wallet-by-private-key/114665, two users reported that they were somehow successful, maybe with the private key and not the seed phrase. But unfortunately they did not give any details (and the latest of them was deleted and suspended for scam although I do not see a reason for that).

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Try to install/restore the wallet on another device

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@Alexd1985 @HeptaSean Thanks for your insights. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the app on the same and different phones, but still, ADA funds are not showing up.
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And I can see funds in cardanscan.io
And I can see funds in Resource not found - Cardanoscan
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@Zyroxa Do you mean we can restore Infinito wallet on adalite.io with seed phrase?

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Try to restore on adalite.io with keys file, if u have the posibility to download the files from infinito wallet

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Me too i can not restore my coins
I install daedalus wallet and sync blockchain for my wallet after that my ada was 0. :smiling_face_with_tear:

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I dont know what to do?!

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I am stuck in the same problem. Got Ada on Byron infinito but balance showing as 0 :frowning:

@Alexd1985 any ideas mate? would really appreciate

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Hi,

Do u see both wallets shelley and byron inside infinito app?

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Your balance should be visible on byron wallet

Cheers,

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Yes i did use to see in on my old phone. I couldnd make any transactions though. But i reinstalled on my new phone and dont see it anymore, whereas i can see the balanace on cardano block Explorer online. I have my ada address, 12 word phrase and private keys but haven’t been able to restore to Daedalus or yoroi or adalite. Any suggestions mate on how i can recover it?

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if u go to infinito-> ada byron wallet → deposit → copy the address and paste it on cardanoscan.io do u see the balance?

PS: u can’t restore infinito wallet on other cardano native wallets

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I get “search not found” on cardanoscan.io but I do see the balance on https://explorer.cardano.org/

the public address starts with “Ae2”

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Nah, Infinito completely shut down almost a year ago. There are no backends anymore that could tell a newly installed Infinito wallet app what the balance is.

So, it’s perfectly normal that it shows 0 there if that instance of the app wasn’t connected when they were still up and running.

If you see it on Explorer, you should also see it on Cardanoscan. Perhaps, you pasted a space character or cut away part of the address.

Anyway, just seeing it on a blockchain explorer won’t help much.

Unfortunately, neither the seed phrase nor the private key is directly usable in any other wallet app. And I still haven’t found out how to massage them to work at least with command line tools, with building transactions by hand.

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ohhh… it is the end of the road or perhaps there is some light at the end of the tunnel with this?

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I have no idea what to test further, unfortunately.

Up in Ada in Infinito - #3 by Alexd1985, they claim that they use a standard derivation, but I couldn’t reconstruct that (and had at the same time no problem in reconstructing what Yoroi, using the same method as far as I can see, does).

Shelley wallets of Infinito are no problem at all. They can just be imported in Eternl. They clearly follow a standard there.

For Byron, it’s a big mystery.

The private keys probably won’t help. They seem to be encrypted in some unspecified way. Even the thing they show as Shelley private key had nothing to do with the clear text private keys appearing in the derivation (although the address in the end is the same one).

Maybe someone else has another idea?

For the record, what I tried, so that we don’t do double work:

I imported the trivial seed phrase abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon about into Infinito. The Byron address then is Ae2tdPwUPEZAuwy3Wj5gtUoqHgXJ3egZMEG7b6kJuTDHnSphr8jhCtCQ4hv and the Shelley address addr1qy8ac7qqy0vtulyl7wntmsxc6wex80gvcyjy33qffrhm7sh927ysx5sftuw0dlft05dz3c7revpf7jx0xnlcjz3g69mq4afdhv.

With cardano-address (https://github.com/input-output-hk/cardano-addresses), I can derive keys resulting in the Shelley address with no problem.

If they did the V2 HD wallet stuff like they claimed, it should be Icarus master key derivation and a derivation path of m/44'/1815'/0'/0/0, but that isn’t it, that would be Ae2tdPwUPEZKcVUy5JAhPjdXa6PuWMnHDgjWdK4ZyGK33L8YWjBv2saUwaa for that trivial example seed phrase. I also tried likely errors (switching hardened and un-hardened, accounts 1H and 2H, chain 1, addresses 1 and 2, and all combinations of those.

FWIW, the script with all I tried:

#!/bin/sh
SEEDPHRASE="abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon abandon about"

SHELLEY_SEARCH="addr1qy8ac7qqy0vtulyl7wntmsxc6wex80gvcyjy33qffrhm7sh927ysx5sftuw0dlft05dz3c7revpf7jx0xnlcjz3g69mq4afdhv"
account_xsk=$(echo "${SEEDPHRASE}" \
    | cardano-address key from-recovery-phrase Shelley \
    | cardano-address key child 1852H/1815H/0H)
stake_xvk=$(echo "${account_xsk}" \
    | cardano-address key child 2/0 \
    | cardano-address key public --with-chain-code)
address=$(echo "${account_xsk}" \
    | cardano-address key child 0/0 \
    | cardano-address key public --with-chain-code \
    | cardano-address address payment --network-tag mainnet \
    | cardano-address address delegation ${stake_xvk})
if [ "${address}" = "${SHELLEY_SEARCH}" ]
then
    echo "Found ${address}:"
    echo "    Master derivation: Shelley"
    echo "    Payment derivation: 1852H/1815H/0H/0/0"
    echo "    Stake derivation: 1852H/1815H/0H/2/0"
fi

BYRON_SEARCH="Ae2tdPwUPEZKcVUy5JAhPjdXa6PuWMnHDgjWdK4ZyGK33L8YWjBv2saUwaa Ae2tdPwUPEZAuwy3Wj5gtUoqHgXJ3egZMEG7b6kJuTDHnSphr8jhCtCQ4hv"
function check() {
    address=$(echo "${SEEDPHRASE}" \
        | cardano-address key from-recovery-phrase $1 \
        | cardano-address key child $2 \
        | cardano-address key public --with-chain-code \
        | cardano-address address bootstrap --network-tag mainnet)
    for search in ${BYRON_SEARCH}
    do
        if [ "${address}" = "${search}" ]
        then
            echo "Found ${address}:"
            echo "    Master derivation: $1"
            echo "    Derivation path: $2"
        fi
    done
}
for master in Icarus Byron
do
    for account in 0H 1H 2H 0 1 2
    do
        for address in 0H 1H 2H 0 1 2
        do
            check ${master} ${account}/${address}
        done
    done
    for purpose in 44H 1852H 0H 44 1852 0
    do
        for coin in 1815H 44H 0H 1815 44 0
        do
            for account in 0H 1H 2H 0 1 2
            do
                for chain in 0 1 0H 1H
                do
                    for address in 0 1 2 0H 1H 2H
                    do
                        check ${master} ${purpose}/${coin}/${account}/${chain}/${address}
                    done
                done
            done
        done
    done
done
Need help (Infinito wallet) Byron cardano
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hi,i have the same isue and i can see the funds in cardanoscan.
What can i do next?
thanks

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